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Harvard 'black mass' event met with shock, outcry
cna ^ | May 8, 2014

Posted on 05/08/2014 2:51:14 PM PDT by NYer

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To: Salvation

Thank you very much, my friend. Wish I could do that. I have no skill on a tablet.


41 posted on 05/08/2014 5:29:57 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Jewbacca
I hate to tell you but the ludicrous and yet vile text of a black mass (and its many variations) is no more kind to the beautiful religion of Judaism than it is to Catholicism.
42 posted on 05/08/2014 5:33:38 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Hugin

“Apparently it’s not just a thing of “ages past”, as you still think you have the right to tell others what they can and can’t do. And if a handful of brats can affect your ability to practice you faith, that says more about your insecurity than anything they are doing to you.”

Dragging Aunt Sally about is not going to cut it.


43 posted on 05/08/2014 5:55:15 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Ronin
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44 posted on 05/08/2014 5:58:49 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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“Finally, the real irony is the church invented Satanism from whole cloth to demonize pagans, and now you are incensed when people mimic it.”

I’ll just re-post that as one of the sillier ideas.

BTW, Satanists are not pagans. They are Satanists. Wiccans, anamists, and a whole host of other religions are pagan.

Satanists worship Satan.


45 posted on 05/08/2014 6:01:13 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Hugin

For some reason, your name did not post.

See above.


46 posted on 05/08/2014 6:02:29 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Hugin

“Finally, the real irony is the church invented Satanism from whole cloth to demonize pagans, and now you are incensed when people mimic it.”

And you know this, how?

I am curious about the sources you used to arrive at that conclusion.


47 posted on 05/08/2014 6:43:17 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: OpusatFR
BTW, Satanists are not pagans. They are Satanists. Wiccans, anamists, and a whole host of other religions are pagan.

Precisely. The church in the middle ages labeled witches and other pagans as "Satan worshippers" in order to discredit and persecute them. There is not one shred of evidence that anyone worshiped Satan prior to Christianity. The only evidence Satanism existed is from accusations by the Church itself.

48 posted on 05/08/2014 7:13:05 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: aomagrat

Thanks for the info. I had the album, and it had some really good music on it; but after a while I just felt I had to get rid of it.

Just wondering, did Oz Ozborne ever get with another band that you know of? Or any of the others?


49 posted on 05/08/2014 8:25:24 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: Ronin

I meant to address my post to you as well 48. There is just no evidence of any practice of Satanism prior to the Church accusing pagans and heretics of practicing it.


50 posted on 05/08/2014 8:47:08 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Hugin; Ronin; NYer; OpusatFR
Actually, there is evidence that medieval Satanism incorporated elements of pagan traditions such as Zoroastrian dualism, Gnosticism, Hermeticism, Greco-Roman witchcraft, and Diana worship. See history professor Donald Nugent's Masks of Satan for documentation from primary and secondary sources and a refutation of the "Christianity invented Satanism" thesis. Jeffrey Burton Russell's work is also a good resource.

With reference to the mention of Satanism being distinct from Wicca, Wicca was invented by Aleister Crowley's protege Gerald Gardner, who was an OTO initiate. It is the OTO's brand of Satanism rebranded to appeal to feminists who would not want to label themselves "Satanists," similar to the way the Communist Party created various fronts to appeal to people who would not want to join the CP.

51 posted on 05/09/2014 2:46:58 AM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

PS: Donald Nugent = Christopher Nugent (Dr. Nugent has published under both names, I believe he used “Christopher” for that book).


52 posted on 05/09/2014 2:48:33 AM PDT by Fedora
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To: Hugin

Witchraft, such as it was, was allowed in the middle ages in England. The Church ignored it. Only if someone was accused of plotting to kill the king through demonic practices was it prosecuted. An example would be the false story put about that Richard the Third had Jane Shore arrested on witchcraft charges after she “withered” his arm. In reality, he had her arrested because she was a co-conspirator in a plot to murder him.


53 posted on 05/09/2014 3:50:21 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: mgist

As it should scare anyone with sense. This stuff is not to be done. These fools don’t know what they are messing with.


54 posted on 05/09/2014 4:31:34 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: miss marmelstein

I don’t doubt it is foul.

Don’t know the details; no interest in learning. I’d categorize it as “witchcraft” and especially poor thing for Jewish people to know about (think Saul).


55 posted on 05/09/2014 9:15:44 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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