as one who must be obedient to Scripture. And so, I must counter his argument with conviction and urgency. I am concerned for him, and for the thousands who struggle as he does. The church has often failed people with same-sex attractions, and failed them horribly. We must not fail them now by forfeiting the only message that leads to salvation, holiness, and faithfulness. That is the real question before us.
> gay Christians
Lost me right there.
If we allow them to use terminology such as “gay Christians”, then we have to allow for murderer Christinans, adulterer Christians, thieving Christians, drunkard Christians, lying Christians, etc.
1st Corinthians 6:9-11 puts this straight.
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?"
Those who understand this passage know that the serpent twisted what God had said in an effort to first confuse and then deceive. It worked then, it may work in some capacity now.
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>>Vines comes back to sexual orientation as the key issue. ‘”The Bible doesn’t directly address the issue of same-sex orientation,”
Matthew 19:4-6 (New King James Version)
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Matthew 19:4-6
New King James Version (NKJV)
4 And He [Jesus] answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”
Well, then, that was easy. There is no arguing around that.
Sorry. 2+2 will NEVER equal 5. It will ALWAYS and FOREVER equal 4.
These folks can’t change wrong to right by just saying so.
The Bible is clear regarding homosexuality; it DOES address it for what it is.
Hey, if you choose that lifestyle, more power to you. But the Bible states clearly that those who do will NOT see the Kingdom of Heaven. We can’t change that and God WON’T change it because some folks want Him to.
Essentially, what these apostates are doing is engaging in false prophesy. God has clearly spoken about homosexuality, and these apostates are calling God a liar, saying there’s nothing wrong with a behavior that God has condemned to hell, if not repented of.
Christ said false prophets such as these are damned:
Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
They delusionally believe they’re children of God, and in response Christ will cast them into hell. False prophesy, calling God a liar, is a profoundly bad idea.
Our Messiah, who is the Word that became flesh ( and we all believe that right? He didn’t just stumble into this world at Mathew?)
He gave us the command written in Leviticus 18:22
New King James Version (NKJV)
22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination
The word, sharper than two edge sword, except to those who don’t want to offend someone.
Any pastor, preacher, minister, priest, pope or christian leader who cannot give us The Word that became flesh’s answer to gay sexual relations or any other sinful act , is a false teacher... there is no moral relativism in I change not.
This is a commandment as much as thou shalt not steal is...
Not tickling to the ears, but Truth is hate to all of us who hate the Truth..
Dennis Prager, Why Judaism Rejected Homosexuality
Have been studying Genesis, the creation, fall and flood series with Kay Arthur. No serious Bible “scholar” can claim that God is okay with homosexuality. When you reference all the scriptures pertaining to the act, it is clear that God is condemning the act, and not only that, but He says that He gives men/women over to this state (act of homosexuality) when they have denied Him and refuse to believe the Truth. You cannot reconcile Matthew Vine’s book with the Bible. He should know better, as well. He has been reading commentary until he found something that he can twist into his view. That is all.
This past week, our study was about capital punishment and abortion. There is no other way to put this, but we are NOW under condemnation as a nation from God. Not just for abortion, but I think it goes back to the beginning of the 20th century, when Turkey was annihilating the Armenians and our ships were in the harbor in Izmir and refused to take the refugees on, then in WWII, when we sent the ships of Jews back to their deaths, etc. We followed WWII with the sexual revolution and legalization of abortion. Since then, we’ve had nothing but trouble in one form or another, whether it be earthquake, hurricane, fire, flooding, etc. Now it grows worse and worse.
There has not been a serious revival or spiritual awakening since the end of the 19th century, beginning of the 20th....over a hundred years. I see no evidence of anything other than a local awakening here or there in small communities. People don’t care, they have their new god, and it is government. So, fellow believers, I do believe we are going to experience some very dark days ahead and we need to prepare. God gave us Obama to bring judgment, and he is faithful in delivering it to us. Yes, God uses the unjust to judge the just...over and over in Scripture, God gave us that picture. We really need to quit complaining about Obama and how bad he is and start asking God to examine our hearts to show us every wicked thing that lies therein. Get our hearts right with Him and then begin praying for revival, getting involved in helping godly men/women get elected, and look for evidence of what God is doing around us and get involved in that to bring His kingdom closer. We are to be about His business of preparing for the kingdom. It is not until that last person that God already knows will be saved that brings Christ back, but it will be during severe persecution...as that is what will bring a revival of sorts...unsaved seeing True believers willing to die for their Faith, then they will see that it is the Truth...else why would one die for a myth or a lie? May God deal with each of us and open our eyes to see what He is clearly revealing to those with “eyes to see and ears to hear”.
God bless!