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Francis Encountering Curial Opposition, Cardinal Says ("We Made a Mistake")
The National Catholic Reporter ^ | 4/21/14 | Joshua J. McElwee

Posted on 04/22/2014 6:06:22 AM PDT by marshmallow

Pope Francis is seeking to build a "new way of being church" for Roman Catholics in a similar way to how St. Francis of Assisi reported being told by God to repair the church during the 13th century, a cardinal who is one of the pontiff's closest advisers said.

"There is a new concept of church here" in how the pope is governing the Vatican, said Honduran Cardinal Oscar Rodríguez Maradiaga, speaking April 8 in St. Petersburg, Fla. "There is a new way of thinking, including the way of governing in the church, here."

However, Rodríguez said, while Francis is popular among people around the world, he is facing opposition in the Roman Curia.

"We have to be prepared, since this beautiful but strange popularity is beginning to strengthen adherences, but equally to awaken deaf opposition not only in the old Curia, but in some who are sorry to lose privileges in treatment and in comforts," Rodríguez said.

"Expressions like 'What can it be that this little Argentine pretends?', or the expression of a well-known cardinal who let slip the phrase, 'We made a mistake,' can be heard," Rodríguez said, making an apparent reference to a cardinal who regrets the selection of Argentine Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio as pope.

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1 posted on 04/22/2014 6:06:22 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

“some who are sorry to lose privileges in treatment and in comforts”

Ah yes, because becoming a bishop or archbishop is supposed to be able raking in the riches.


2 posted on 04/22/2014 6:09:23 AM PDT by GIdget2004
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To: GIdget2004
Well... be careful, here. Consider the source (the National Catholic Distorter... er... "Reporter"), and consider that ideology is alive and well among the bishops. One bishop dirt-talking other bishops (esp. ascribing slimy motives to them) doesn't hold much credibility, in my book.
3 posted on 04/22/2014 6:15:11 AM PDT by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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"Expressions like 'What can it be that this little Argentine pretends?', or the expression of a well-known cardinal who let slip the phrase, 'We made a mistake,' can be heard," Rodríguez said, making an apparent reference to a cardinal who regrets the selection of Argentine Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio as pope.

IB4TNRC

4 posted on 04/22/2014 6:16:11 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: marshmallow

The National “Catholic” Reporter is nothing but fish wrap!


5 posted on 04/22/2014 6:19:30 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: marshmallow

An elderly Priest whom I know (who is certainly NOT a Liberal Catholic...he regularly says Mass in Latin) has openly expressed fears for the Pope’s life. And his belief that the threats come from within the Vatican.


6 posted on 04/22/2014 6:19:48 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: marshmallow

I have some issues with Francis, but this makes me smile a bit.


7 posted on 04/22/2014 6:19:56 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: paladinan

Agreed, but Pope Francis must have some agenda. I wonder what it is. He has proven to be extremely savvy. Just when you think he is a socialist, he turns the other way and vice versa. I would love to know what his plans are for the direction of the Church. Being a graduate of a Jesuit university, I am skeptical, but I can’t say I have much criticism of anything he has said and done so far. Granted, it is all how you interpret it.


8 posted on 04/22/2014 6:21:06 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: GIdget2004
This is the reason I am terrified of his papacy: from the ; article:

Focus on:
-Speaking out against violence and destruction of the environment;
-Dialogue with other religions, especially Islam.

While they claim he is creating greater adherence, for me, personally, he is creating much less.

This man has the potential to be extremely dangerous for our Church. He simply seems like a left-wing socialist ideologue.

9 posted on 04/22/2014 6:33:22 AM PDT by Individual Rights in NJ (I don't even know what to say anymore...)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Best candidates (and I in no way mean to suggest these threats are real):

“Masonic” bankers. Former PM Silvio Berlusconi, once 12th most powerful person in the world, is an ex-con from Propaganda Due, a “pseudo-Masonic” organized-crime circle which led, in 1978, to the collapse of the Vatican bank.

OR

The Gay Mafia. Not curial officials, but staffers in the Vatican.


10 posted on 04/22/2014 6:36:09 AM PDT by dangus
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To: marshmallow

“We made a mistake”?!

Clearly, whoever said that doesn’t believe that the Holy Spirit is the one in charge.


11 posted on 04/22/2014 6:57:46 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: GIdget2004

Probably not riches involved, but more being recognized and thanked. The old evil, PRIDE, at work.


12 posted on 04/22/2014 7:10:09 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: al_c
Clearly, whoever said that doesn’t believe that the Holy Spirit is the one in charge.

Clearly, we have absolutely no idea if that was actually said, much less who said it.

This is a content-free article that is nothing more than agitprop.

13 posted on 04/22/2014 7:36:43 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The best way to control opposition is to lead it ourselves." -- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Of course ... as is normal behavior from NCR.


14 posted on 04/22/2014 7:57:14 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ
“Focus on:
-Speaking out against violence and destruction of the environment;
-Dialogue with other religions, especially Islam.”

He seems more interested in the made up harm of “global warming” than stopping abortions, more interested in accepting Islam as a religion that should be respected than preaching Christianity. I don't know how anyone who studies the history of Islam could ever accept it as a religion to be respected.

15 posted on 04/22/2014 8:14:39 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: marshmallow

” In the end, according to Maradiaga, it would be wrong to examine reality in terms of true and false – he forgets that Jesus Christ in the Gospel gave this precise commandment: “But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is from evil.” (Mt. 5,37).

Does Maradiaga prefer “that which is over and above these” to the proclamation of the Truth? On the themes regarding the family, where [now] we have an ideological attack similar to the Marxist one of the Seventies, various ecclesiastics are ready – as they were then – to cave in shamefully.

And they do it with Maradiaga’s sophisms, which state that, yes, Jesus’ words on marriage are binding, “but they can be interpreted” as today there are many new situations of cohabitation and “answers which can no longer be based on authoritarianism and moralism” are needed. “

this from http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3116849/posts titled “THE NEW INQUISITORS AGAINST RATZINGER”

“today there are many new situations of cohabitation”

The Unique Marriage, coming to a Catholic church near you?


16 posted on 04/22/2014 8:45:04 AM PDT by the_daug
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To: FR_addict

Yep.

And as anyone with half a brain knows, there is no such thing as “dialogue” with Islam. They will do to today’s modern westerners/Christians, the same thing they did to the last vestiges of the Roman world. Invade, pillage, rape and kidnap.


17 posted on 04/22/2014 9:36:37 AM PDT by Individual Rights in NJ (I don't even know what to say anymore...)
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To: marshmallow
Are you sure this isn't from, National Cash Register and not, National Catholic Reporter?

18 posted on 04/22/2014 10:20:38 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: al_c

Or they weren’t listening to the Holy Spirit.


19 posted on 04/22/2014 2:39:11 PM PDT by piusv
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To: marshmallow

I have to say that I doubt this report. I happen to think that most in the Vatican love him.


20 posted on 04/22/2014 2:41:04 PM PDT by piusv
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