Posted on 04/11/2014 4:14:13 AM PDT by NYer
Oops
Drop the Girl Scouts and start
Still not buying any cookies. Sounds like a bunch of crap the Obama admin would put out.
Not asking that at all. I am just pointing out truths in regard to your faith and your “church”. Which is more important, to keep supporting the collective or to focus more on your personal relationship with God and Jesus? That is the quandary you have to wrestle with.
That is it, just keep looking to the Vatican for the solution. Just as you should commune with the Federal Government for the solution to your personal needs.
I owe my parish support, and I owe the Universal Church respect for the authority Christ gave it to teach, govern, and sanctify the flock. So there is no question of splitting my parish off from its Bishop, or from the Universal Church. That is a bogus move which, of course, is delightful to the Lowerarchy of demons, who exist to split and wreck, divide and kill.
Financially, I try to keep my support as local and as directly personal as possible. This is entirely in line with the Catholic moral principle of Subsidiarity. It does not imply the least schism in the areas of faith and morals, nor of legitimate Church governance.
As I said before, you have to make a careful distinction between an Apostlic Hierarchy and a clerical bureaucracy. The first has by unhesitating loyalty. The latter ... now that's another story.
I don't see why a person would want to reject Mater Ecclesia, the Mother of the Faithful. Look in the last two verses of Revelation 12 to see who she is, and whom she is opposing.
Girls Scouts wants money from the churches. Churches don’t want to piss off liberal parishioners. Result? Moral degradation.
It's a little equivocal to use "the Vatican" as a synonym for "the Church." There was a Church in 33 AD, at Pentecost, the Apostles and their followers and ordained successors, some years before there was a "Vatican," which is to say, an administrative Sstructure located in the capital city. The Church consisted of the faithful Apostles, in union with Peter, to whom was given the keys and the power to open and shut, to bind and loose, to feed the Lord's lambs and sheep, and to strengthen the brethren; and those who gathered around them to receive teaching, and baptism, and the nourishnment of the Body and Blood of Christ, promised in John 6, fulfilled in the New Testament church (1 Corinthians 11).
In 1 Corinthians 12, Paul declares that God has given the Church a structure, a differentiation of roles and offices which He has set in order and which are not identical in everyone:
"And God has appointed in the church
first of all apostles,
second prophets,
third teachers,
then miracles,
then gifts of healing, of helping,
of government, and of different kinds of tongues.
Are all apostles?
Are all prophets?
Are all teachers?
Do all work miracles?"
Good post. A personal relationship with Jesus is just that. If it’s not the same as one’s personal relationship with friends and family here on earth, on that same level of intimacy and reality, it’s just a nice idea at best and deception from the devil at worst.
It’s absolutely true every human being needs a personal relationship with Jesus. I don’t think some have any idea what that means though; to some it appears to only mean simply believing in his existence, “calling him Lord”, saying the sinner’s prayer and going to church when you feel like it.
It’s not, it’s more than that (or it better be), it better be as real a relationship as one has with anyone here on earth or else it’s just a fantasy, and a dangerous one at that.
Definitely want to read this.....finally an answer from the USCCB.
You mean much like Holy Communion to pro-abort politicians?
LOL. What a joke. A two-year decision to....do nothing.
And the USCCB has still made no “official ruling” on the sodomization of the BSA. It’s left up to individual parish priests whether they want to sponsor a Boy Scout troup or not. While there have been many Catholic parishes that have cut ties with the Boy Scouts there have also been many that have pretended nothing happened, business as usual, just waiting for the certain lawsuit to come down when a homosexual predator in their parish troup is charged with molesting a little boy and the parish is sued for a couple of million for not putting a stop to it when they had the chance. This scenario will play out in all religions faiths across the country that continue to sponsor the radical/ anti-Christian Boy Scouts
Reading minds and hearts. That’s quite a trick.
My thoughts exactly. The Mystical Body of Christ vs. a loose collection of atomized “believers.” I’ll stick with Scripture.
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