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1 posted on 04/09/2014 9:44:02 AM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: PhilipFreneau

I thought it meant Rome.


2 posted on 04/09/2014 9:47:17 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: PhilipFreneau

I think it means San Fransicko?.


3 posted on 04/09/2014 9:51:05 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: PhilipFreneau

I read something that said it’s us, the USA.


5 posted on 04/09/2014 9:51:18 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog
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To: PhilipFreneau

1.1 million people? Don’t think so, Rome was the largest city in the world at that time but only had a population of roughly a million.


9 posted on 04/09/2014 10:00:35 AM PDT by aft_lizard
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To: PhilipFreneau

Jerusalem isn’t known as the city on seven hills, has never ruled over the kingdoms of the earth, isn’t economically important, isn’t accessible from the sea, and is destined to be rebuilt and glorified rather than destroyed forever so . . . I’m thinking no.


10 posted on 04/09/2014 10:01:56 AM PDT by Buggman (returnofbenjamin.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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Can you explain this “civil War” a bit? John and his bandits were robbing and killing the people around the Temple. Titus did not want to burn the Temple and gave orders not to. Josephus was a prisoner of Titus as he had been captured trying to defend his home city so he had a ring side seat to write things down. How would you run a civil war while under siege without Josephus seeing you?


13 posted on 04/09/2014 10:18:54 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: PhilipFreneau
The greek word Oros in Revelations is used to translate the Hebrew word Har or mountain - not hill.

Oros - if not used to translate Har - might conceivably mean hill or mountain - but when greeks or romans referred to Rome they used the word bounos, not oros to describe the City on seven hills.

There is at least one city which is arguably 'on seven mountains'. That is Mecca, which is certainly a wicked city that has filled the world with poison.

16 posted on 04/09/2014 10:33:13 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: PhilipFreneau

I think it could mean the US, or perhaps western civilization in general.


17 posted on 04/09/2014 10:33:22 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: PhilipFreneau

You say “Was “Babylon The Great” a Symbolic Name for Jerusalem?” I don’t think so because Jerusalem is on the mountain of God (singular) and Babylon the Great is interpreted by the Angel to be on seven mountains. Also Jerusalem has a future and Babylon The Great does not.


20 posted on 04/09/2014 10:45:04 AM PDT by the_daug
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To: PhilipFreneau

I can plainly see that your knowledge of scripture probably exceeds mine.

For instance the fact that nothing is mentioned about the destruction of Jerusalem in all of the letters is pretty good proof that the epistles were all written before it happened.

Including the rev told to john.

I do disagree with Jerusalem being the harlot of rev 17 because the harlot of rev 17 is in the time period of the beast.

rev 17
3
So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

The roman empire was the kingdom at that time, and was the sixth, the seventh was one that would come later.

The eighth is of the seven and comes later yet.

Rev 17
11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

The eighth beast comes near the end of this world which may be closer than we think.


21 posted on 04/09/2014 10:54:27 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: PhilipFreneau
I must conclude that the destruction of Babylon the Great in the Revelation is referring to the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD.

Unfortunately, you're not even close to being right Philip... You've missed it by almost 2,000 years. ;)

23 posted on 04/09/2014 11:03:07 AM PDT by Errant (Surround yourself with intelligent and industrious people who help and support each other.)
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To: PhilipFreneau

I agree and feel it’s talking about Jerusalem in 70 AD.
Keeping in mind that the beast the Harlot rides on is Rome.
So in Revelation you find references to both


24 posted on 04/09/2014 11:07:26 AM PDT by NoDRodee (U>S>M>C)
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To: PhilipFreneau

I agree that Jerusalem is the most likely candidate for Babylon the Great in Revelation, however it’s not plausible that the events described were those that happened in 70 AD. After, all there certainly were stones left standing on top of one another in 70 AD, so that prophecy (and its associated prophecies) could not have been fulfilled at that time.


37 posted on 04/09/2014 11:33:39 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: PhilipFreneau

See:

End Times: http://www.fisheaters.com/endtimes.html

Dispensationalism: http://www.fisheaters.com/dispensationalism.html


38 posted on 04/09/2014 11:40:31 AM PDT by WillOTerry
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Jerusalem was completely destroyed in 70 AD,....

Whose definition of 'completely destroyed' are you using?

Christ said that Matthew 24:2 And Jesus said unto them, "see ye not all these things? (verse 1 'buildings of the temple) verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down."

This word 'thrown' is a companion to the word translated in the English 'foundation' of the world by Christ and Paul. Thrown is kinship word to the katabole/kataballo overthrow/casting down. That Roman general did not cast down all stones that existed then of temple in the days Christ walked this earth, many of then still sit one atop another yet today. It is yet to happen and thus Matthew 24:2, Mark 13:2 and Luke 21:6 have not happened.

57 posted on 04/09/2014 2:01:08 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: PhilipFreneau

The word Babylon means confusion. God is not the author of confusion. Harlotry can be physical or spiritual.


59 posted on 04/09/2014 2:02:38 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: PhilipFreneau

I thought it was the original name for Baghdad - seriously.

It does seems to be in Iraq south of Baghdad.

https://www.google.com/search?q=baghdad+babylon&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb#channel=sb&q=babylon&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official


64 posted on 04/09/2014 2:43:22 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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