Posted on 04/09/2014 9:44:02 AM PDT by PhilipFreneau
I can plainly see that your knowledge of scripture probably exceeds mine.
For instance the fact that nothing is mentioned about the destruction of Jerusalem in all of the letters is pretty good proof that the epistles were all written before it happened.
Including the rev told to john.
I do disagree with Jerusalem being the harlot of rev 17 because the harlot of rev 17 is in the time period of the beast.
rev 17
3
So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
The roman empire was the kingdom at that time, and was the sixth, the seventh was one that would come later.
The eighth is of the seven and comes later yet.
Rev 17
11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
The eighth beast comes near the end of this world which may be closer than we think.
I believe your right. New York City fits the description better than Jerusalem. It is a port city..........it has the UN (United Nations of the World). The seven hills can be a word meaning land mass as in 7 continents of the world geography. There is only seven which means it in compasses the whole world. Since trade goes on here. Also remember the title the World Trade Center buildings which came down. It seemed every nation loss a citizen in the buildings thus the mourning. It could mean it all is part of steps by time in scripture too. It happened on a emergency phone number numeral 911 day 9/11. God is telling us something? The Statue of Liberty has seven points too on its crown. She is a lady modeled form lady goddesses including a Babylon goddess. Also why is it called Mystery Babylon. Mystery means hidden.
Unfortunately, you're not even close to being right Philip... You've missed it by almost 2,000 years. ;)
I agree and feel it’s talking about Jerusalem in 70 AD.
Keeping in mind that the beast the Harlot rides on is Rome.
So in Revelation you find references to both
Jerusalem is the capital of the Jewish State of Israel. Not destroyed. But don’t tell a Praeterist, Supercessionist that.
Also Rev 1:1
1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must soon take place; and He sent and communicated it by His angel to His bond-servant John,...
Lol! We all have heard that old stand by. Lol!!!
The seven mountains are the beast where the woman sits, they are probably not literal mountains but kingdoms.
Ancient Jerusalem was absolutely built on seven hills.
Your other assertions are largely wrong as well.
So does Cincinnati, Ohio.
Exactly
Lynchburg is an independent city in the Commonwealth of Virginia. As of the 2010 census, the population was 75,568.[3] Located in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains along the banks of the James River, Lynchburg is known as the "City of Seven Hills" or "The Hill City." Lynchburg was the only major city in Virginia that did not fall to the Union before the end of the American Civil War.
yikes!!!!! Lol!!!!!'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynchburg,_Virginia
But Rome proudly claims to be that, and was in existiance before the others.
I agree that Jerusalem is the most likely candidate for Babylon the Great in Revelation, however it’s not plausible that the events described were those that happened in 70 AD. After, all there certainly were stones left standing on top of one another in 70 AD, so that prophecy (and its associated prophecies) could not have been fulfilled at that time.
See:
End Times: http://www.fisheaters.com/endtimes.html
Dispensationalism: http://www.fisheaters.com/dispensationalism.html
Rome was in existence before Jerusalem?!?
If you insist on applying a literal interpretation to figurative imagery, then you must be ready to admit that neither is Rome known as a city that sits on seven mountains (the Revelation states seven mountains, not seven hills.) Ancient Jerusalem, however, did actually sit on seven mountains.
>>>… has never ruled over the kingdoms of the earth<<<
No one really knows what that means. But, to be exact, it doesn't say Babylon reigned over the "kingdoms" of the earth. This is what it says:
"And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth." (Rev 17:18 KJV)
The original Greek could also be translated, "sovereigns of the land;" or as Peter used in Acts 4:26, the "rulers" of the land. Jerusalem most definitely "ruled" over all "rulers" of Israel. The early Christians who were the target audience of the book (the seven churches in Asia) would have understood.
>>>… isn’t economically important<<<
Jerusalem was most economically important for its day. The city was rich and decked in splendour: the showcase of the middle east. Further, it was at one time, the richest of all kingdoms:
"So king Solomon exceeded all the kings of the earth for riches and for wisdom." (1 Kin 10:23 KJV)
Much of the imagery in the Revelation came from Old Testament imagery.
>>>… isn’t accessible from the sea<<<
If you are willing to admit that you spiritualized a "seaport" out of the book that mentions no seaport, I will concede it is relevant.
While you are at it, can explain how any creature could remain alive for any length of time after all green grass was burnt up (Rev 8:7.) And why, after a third of all ships were destroyed, and a third of all sea creatures were killed, their loss was not mentioned in any manner in regards to the destruction of Babylon?
BTW, those were not the worst "woes" to come (Rev 8:134.) LOL!
>>>and is destined to be rebuilt and glorified rather than destroyed forever so<<<
That is not true unless Ezekiel was a false prophet (Eze 16:55 KJV.)
Would you care to elaborate on those items already mentioned, such as the blood of the prophets and the harlotry?
Philip
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