[Mrs. Don-o]

I believe Fr. Pope is right on the money here. And yet---I hope someone can discuss this clearly --- why did Jesus say, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do"?

Jesus here is acting as defense attorney for his own murderers while they are in the very process of murdering him, and his plea for them is, "They don't know..."

What's up with that?

[raygunfan]

of course they will try to say consciousness is ‘matter’, and ‘part of evolution’, these goof balls need a way out of the obvious consequences of how this points to a creator, a living loving creator...