Posted on 03/06/2014 9:14:17 AM PST by SeekAndFind
You have a right to your opinion I suppose...
That is a stretch.
Perhaps. . .but I do not agree. The baby’s mere existance would be an on-going “assault” even if the woman placed the child for adoption.
RE: The baby’s mere existance would be an on-going “assault” even if the woman placed the child for adoption.
So the solution to this ongoing “assault” is to kill the baby? How does murdering an innocent person terminate the assault?
To be fair, you may not “love killing defenseless babies” but you do argue that as a course of action.
Please read the posts between me and babygene to understand what I am saying. I am not saying what you think I am.
“How does murdering an innocent person terminate the assault?”
It is the rapist’s DNA which he left inside of her by force. It is certainly homicide to take the life of the child, however homicide is not always murder. Ever heard of self defense?
I thank God everyday that my wife’s birth mother gave her up for adoption, than choosing to abort her. Her birth mother was raped by her step father.
There are many natural ways an egg does not implant inside a uterus, ‘The Pill’ just does this same thing.
If every sex enounter where an egg was fertilized was successfully implanted and grew, our population would be enormous.
I DONT LIKE that this even has to be done, but it merely brings upon a normal menstrual period for a woman, who may not want (as another poster put it) to allow herself to continue to be assaulted
Seems like any idiot with a clean suit can become a mega pastor these days.
May the real Christians win. Life is life. A risk to the mother is the only valid excuse.
“Can”? Technically, yes.
“Should?” That’ll be for G-d to know and you to figure out.
If viable artificial wombs/fetal transplants are ever developed does the victim still get the choice to defend herself against the aggression by killing the resultant unborn human?
FReegards
This is Nigeria, not the US. Do you know about Boko Haram in that country. I think that is what Pastor Chris is alluding to without mentioning them directly. They not only bomb and urn churches and kill the congregants —they RAPE THE WOMEN BECAUSE THEY ARE INFIDELS!!!!. I am being easy on Pastor Chris on this one. In USA people shack up, go out for one night stands, have sex all over the place and many times the women gets pregnant —and even if she isn’t pregnant she cries rape, either because she got pissed off at the dude, or she was drunk and didn’t remember or many reasons. Abortion under these circumstances is different than in what occurs in Nigeria and to minority women in the Islamic world. It doesn’t make the act of abortion morality right —but I wouldn’t give a woman grief if she chose to do so in these circumstances.
like people in Nigeria are going to adopt a kid when many can barely feed their own kids.
RE; It is the rapist’s DNA which he left inside of her by force.
1) Does DNA determine destiny or personality?
DNA is just a group of self-replicating material that determine our genetic traits. Suffice it to say that what we have is a DIFFERENT PERSON, not the rapist.
2) Therefore, killing the child is NOT self-defense because the child is not the individual. It is the one with the other DNA — the rapist.
3) The child has a LIVING SOUL in the image of God.
4) You don’t have to be the mother of the child if you don’t want to. There are hundreds of thousands of people waiting to love and adopt the child. Most of them you need never hear from again.
“If viable artificial wombs/fetal transplants are ever developed does the victim still get the choice to defend herself against the aggression by killing the resultant unborn human?”
They could probably transplant it today, or at least try... Perhaps into the rapist’s scrotum.
RE: “Should?” That’ll be for G-d to know and you to figure out.
Does Jewish scripture and tradition give us any guideline on how to figure out?
One could, but the argument holds no water in the face of an undeniable truth: the woman has a human life inside her womb, with a beating heart. Not a mere "continuation of an assault."
I can't imagine the traumatic emotional and mental results of a rape (thank God). But as bad as they must be, I don't believe it benefits a woman emotionally to abort the child. Long-term, I believe it will only add to her problems.
Sadly, I am not sufficiently educated on the subject.
I’ve heard it both ways. I’d like to hear the Hasidic thinking.
Anyone?
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