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Can a Baby Conceived by Rape Be Aborted? Megachurch Pastor Chris Oyakhilome's Response Sparks Debate
Christian Post ^ | 03/06/2014 | Nicola Menzie

Posted on 03/06/2014 9:14:17 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 03/06/2014 9:14:17 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It seems good that there is a vibrant and large Chistian community there to have this debate.


2 posted on 03/06/2014 9:17:45 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: SeekAndFind

Why does the baby have to pay the ultimate price for the sin of its father?


3 posted on 03/06/2014 9:18:01 AM PST by rjsimmon (1-20-2013 The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: SeekAndFind

In this day and age, when it is well known that taking a large dose of birth control pills AFTER unprotected sex will prevent pregnancy, how can anyone get an unwanted pregnancy?

Why isn’t it prescribed immediately for rape victimes (who WANT it)?

Abortion should be the single most unnecessary medical procedure, when it is known how to prevent pregnancy (even AFTER unprotected sex)


4 posted on 03/06/2014 9:19:27 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

“Can a baby that is a product of rape be aborted?”

Of course — They are killing the babies that were not the product of rape....so, why not babies from rape.

The left just doesn’t care — There is no sanctity of life to them. The left will save a shelter full of puppies long before the left will get upset over the death of the most vulnerable unborn.


5 posted on 03/06/2014 9:19:30 AM PST by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: SeekAndFind

Depends on if it is rape, legitimate rape, or rape rape.

Seriously, what crime has the baby committed that it gets a death sentence?


6 posted on 03/06/2014 9:21:59 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: rjsimmon

You would make a woman walk around for 9 months pregnant and force her to raise a rapists child?

See my previous post- pregnancy is preventable AFTER unprotected sex and is probably the best option here. I could not tell a woman she has top spend the next 18 years raising a child she didnt want conceived by force.

I respect your opinion too, I am just saying I disagree


7 posted on 03/06/2014 9:21:59 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: SeekAndFind
if a lady has been raped, it is left for her to make a decision of whether to keep the baby or not.

I hope this guy's church crashes and burns. He's no Christian.

8 posted on 03/06/2014 9:23:38 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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Why Abort it? They should profit from it. Let it be born and make it a slave. Or let it grow to maturity, then kill it to harvest its organs. I mean, it’s just the offspring of a rapist. The Bible never says we can’t harvest the organs of a rapist’s offspring.


9 posted on 03/06/2014 9:24:11 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Didache: The Teachings of the 12 Apostles

“The second commandment of the teaching: You shall not murder. You shall not commit adultery. You shall not seduce boys. You shall not commit fornication. You shall not steal. You shall not practice magic. You shall not use potions. You shall not procure [an] abortion, nor destroy a newborn child” (Didache 2:1–2 [A.D. 70]).

This pastor is providing a clean example of the shortcomings of sola scriptura.


10 posted on 03/06/2014 9:26:03 AM PST by Fishface (teach a man to fish...he eats for a lifetime.)
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To: Mr. K

Pregnancy is not preventable after sex.
Successful gestation is preventable.

Pessaries are prohibited under the Hippocratic oath.


11 posted on 03/06/2014 9:26:33 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Interesting.

Clearly, conception following rape is a most difficult thing, but if life begins the moment of conception then are there exceptions to terminating innocent life?

Are there times when it is justified to terminate (kill) the life an innocent bystander?

I cannot apply Christian standards upon the non-Christian, but, and I say this carefully and in humility, that our lives are not our own and our life is not all about us (me).

Is God sovereign, or is He not sovereign? If He is sovereign then everything is in His hands and He is aware of every detail of our lives, right down to the number of hairs on our head.

It is a difficult issue, but I think the greater difficulty comes when we try to squeeze into play Christian values onto a non-Christian person. Those who do not know Jesus are completely isolated from Christ and all that means.

12 posted on 03/06/2014 9:27:16 AM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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RE: This pastor is providing a clean example of the shortcomings of sola scriptura.

You just quoted the Didache. Where in the above quote are the scriptures silent on?


13 posted on 03/06/2014 9:29:24 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
There is a scene in the movie quest for fire that I think sheds some light on this difficult topic.

In the end I think we will have to conclude a child is a gift from god whether he or she is the product of rape or not.

14 posted on 03/06/2014 9:29:31 AM PST by precisionshootist
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RE: . Let it be born and make it a slave.

Why is that the only option? have you ever considered the hundreds of thousands wanting to adopt a child?

See here:

http://statistics.adoption.com/information/adoption-statistics-hoping-to-adopt.html


15 posted on 03/06/2014 9:32:09 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Mr. K
"and force her to raise a rapists child?

I believe there is an alternative. It's called "adoption".

16 posted on 03/06/2014 9:32:19 AM PST by Pecos (The Chicago Way: Kill the Constitution, one step at a time.)
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“It is perfectly the best thing to do. Pastor Chris is absolutely right, keeping a baby conceived out of rape is morally reprehensible,”

This person is a Christian? Where do we begin with a person who could say and/or think this?

“Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you.”

God creates human life.


17 posted on 03/06/2014 9:33:51 AM PST by Fishface (teach a man to fish...he eats for a lifetime.)
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To: Mr. K

That doesn’t prevent conception. What you describe is a chemical abortion.

“it” is a baby, a defenseless human being with a soul and all the right to live that you or I have.


18 posted on 03/06/2014 9:33:57 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Fishface

Sola scripture has nothing to do with it.


19 posted on 03/06/2014 9:34:47 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Is this pastor not using the Doctrine of Sola Scriptura to defend aborting a child?

He can’t find it in the Bible so it is “perfectly acceptable.”

Do Protestants consider the Didache: Sacred Scripture?


20 posted on 03/06/2014 9:36:36 AM PST by Fishface (teach a man to fish...he eats for a lifetime.)
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