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To: PhilipFreneau
I know what you believe. You obviously don't know what I or Dr. Ken Gentry believe because you mischaracterized our beliefs in post #4.

I will give you that I do not know the details of your position in total in the sense that I cannot read your mind ... but I am having no problem getting the gist of your posiition from the few postings though ... when in doubt ... assume you believe it all happened in 70 AD.

Is this a valid presuppostion about your view that I am making? Perhaps not ultimately ... but so far I think it is. Why? Because without fail you have responded with a 70 AD scenario to all my objections. Therefore it is safe for me to assume.

You made a blanket statement that you do NOT believe that all of Revelation was fulfilled in 70 AD. Maybe this would be easier if you just let me know what part of Revelation DIDNT take place in 70 AD. How about ...

Do you see room for a second Second Coming? If so, will THAT one be visible, literal, and earthly? Where in the Biblical text is that event mentioned?

Is Satan currently bound in the abyss ... not as of yet ... or has he already been cast into the lake of fire? Is there a literal lake of fire for unbelievers and Satan in your view?

What about the Great Commission in Matt 28? Was that fulfilled in 70 AD?

I believe the real John was resurrected in 70 AD (the first resurrection in Rev 20,) along with the other apostles and elect: exactly as Christ promised; and the fellow running around afterward was an impostor.

If the first resurrection has already taken place ... in what sense are those who were resurrected in 70 AD reigning with Christ now? Who exactly are the elect that were raised with the apostles?

Would you not say that Jesus had in mind your ruling when he uttered Matt 19:28 (|| -> Luke 22:30) ... "you who have followed me will sit on twelve thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel." In what sense are they judging the twelve tribes of Israel?

Has the second resurrection happened yet? If not ... when does it happen in your view?

20 posted on 03/04/2014 2:42:38 PM PST by dartuser
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To: dartuser

>>>I will give you that I do not know the details of your position in total in the sense that I cannot read your mind<<<

You could have taken the time to read my past posts. I can only guess that you were too busy to learn the truth, so you decided to mischaracterize my doctrine, anyway.

What about Dr. Ken Gentry? Why did you mischaracterize his doctrine? His website, and every book and article he has written, makes it clear he does not believe the Revelation was fulfilled in 70 AD? And his career is on the line! No Reformed Presbyterian pastor can believe in a 70 AD fulfillment of the Revelation, nor should they!

I withdraw my apology from #17. It seems you had every intent to smear us.

Philip


21 posted on 03/04/2014 3:31:35 PM PST by PhilipFreneau
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