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To: redleghunter
Preterists claim that “this generation” meant those alive at the time of Christ. Simple reading of the text says otherwise if simple reading skills are applied.

One simply needs to read what Christ said prior to that statement. “This generation” refers to the generation that sees all of those things fulfilled. Forcing all of those conditions into the years from Christ’s death and resurrection until 70AD does not work. One in particular stands out.

For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.”

History alone shows us of times worse than 70AD.

101 posted on 02/23/2014 8:15:32 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear
History alone shows us of times worse than 70AD.

Correct, and not only that; their definition of this generation does not fit the number of years that elapsed. Caiaphas probably died in 36AD and Annas in 40 AD. Mothers had their children fairly young. While I grant the godly could live a long life, that would not logically apply to the scenario of the preterist having a generation for judgment in 70AD. Although it is possible some of the Sanhedrin that tried Yeshua could have been alive in 70AD (the youngest member may have been about 40 in 33AD/CE), it is unlikely that very many would have lived that long unless perhaps they had become believers. The more daunting bar to their 70AD/CE date is the Bar Kochba Revolt and this prophecy. I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

None of those who knew of Jesus in 33AD would have been alive in 132-135 AD/CE. It was that revolt which separated the Jews who believed in Jesus as Messiah from those who did not (because they believed in Simon as Messiah) and led to the expulsion of Jews from the land of Israel for almost two millenia. Somehow that prophecy and the fulfillment of the other prophecy of expulsion and diaspora are just brushed over because they don't fit their timeline. Not to mention the other problems they have with the abandonment of the Gentile believers when all the Jewish saints were supposedly raptured in 70AD

150 posted on 02/24/2014 7:57:49 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: CynicalBear; redleghunter
>>>History alone shows us of times worse than 70AD.<<<

What times were worse than 70 A. D.? I will assume from your understanding of history that you have read eyewitness reports, or have some sort of way to "scale" events to back up your claim. What is your historical evidence?

Keep in mind this statement by Jesus before you answer:

"And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." (Mat 10:28 KJV)

When was there a time when Satan destroyed more souls than he did in A.D. 70?

Philip

153 posted on 02/25/2014 12:01:37 AM PST by PhilipFreneau
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