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To: piusv

“And all I can keep thinking is : Why is this even on the table?”

Indeed. I would like to point out something to all Freepers that I have not found referred to on this site.

First, piusv, let me remind you of an article YOU posted regarding the REMOVAL of Cardinal Burke from his position on the Congregation for the Cause of Saints.

(You remember this, I’m sure, but I am posting the link for others.)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3103487/posts

OK, to me at least and perhaps to others, at first glance it could simply mean that Cardinal Burke is out of favor, and this is a little bit of Vatican Romanita.

However, quite apart from that sideshow and without thinking about the story above on the congregation, a question came to my mind. I know little about John XXIII, but some of the things I’ve read led me to be surprised that he was in line for sainthood.

Sooo ... I thought I’d do a little search on the 3 miracles attributed to John XXIII for his canonization which is to take place April 27 along with Pope John Paul II.

Well, guess what ...

“Francis also decided Friday to canonize another pope, John XXIII, even though there HAS BEEN NO SECOND MIRACLE (caps mine) attributed to his intercession. The Vatican said Francis approved a decision by cardinals and bishops.”

Repeat — NO SECOND MIRACLE, and of course no THIRD miracle either.

Source: http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/vatican-announces-popes-john-paul-ii-john-xxiii-to-be-canonized/

It appears that Pope Francis has hijacked the process to rebuff those who were trying to rectify the mistakes made during and after Vatican II. Cardinal Burke may have been trying to defend the PROCESS FOR CANONIZATION, IMHO.

April 27 may be an interesting day at the Vatican.


14 posted on 02/21/2014 2:43:50 PM PST by stisidore (MM, let's see here)
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To: stisidore

Not that I disagree with your post, but I guess I’m unsure of the connection between the current thread and the older one.

Or maybe I’m just dense. ;-)


15 posted on 02/21/2014 3:12:17 PM PST by piusv
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To: stisidore

It’s all politics.

No way JP II should be canonized, when tens of thousands of Catholic children were raped and molested under his watch, and he turned a blind eye.


31 posted on 02/21/2014 5:15:38 PM PST by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back!)
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To: stisidore

The mad rush to canonize the Vatican II popes certainly leads to questions regarding the legitimacy of the process in these particular cases. Why the sudden switch to high speed canonizations? Why have long established procedures designed to assure the integrity of the process been suddenly set aside? And now the reformers have set their sights on shaking up the annulment process, which will further undermine marriage. If lack of understanding regarding the sacramental nature of marriage, immaturity and/or nagging mothers-in-law are grounds for claiming a marriage never took place, then it seems likely under such criteria that the majority of Catholic marriages in America could theoretically be annulled.


58 posted on 02/21/2014 7:55:04 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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