Posted on 02/10/2014 7:26:29 PM PST by SeekAndFind
1. I thought I made my disbelief in POLLS very evident. MOST are rigged by their polling population in oh-so-many-ways. We studied that A WHOLE LOT when I was getting an advanced degree.
2. Hah. One of the SUREST ways to detect an "agenda" was with the words: "According to the latest poll...."
Those who oppose the Democrat party would also be aware of those same caveats...aimed to please the listeners.
There are fewer than 100 Catholic denominations but 30-40,000 different Protestant denominations: Protestant figures. Learn to read.
Wikipedia: The Latin and Eastern Catholic Churches together form the "Catholic Church", or "Roman Catholic Church", the world's largest single religious body and the largest Christian church, comprising over half of all Christians (1.1 billion Christians of 2.1 billion) and nearly one-sixth of the world's population.
1. Half of all Christians are Catholic. You can even google that one. No "front" for that at all; even Protestants agree with that number.
2. I have "perused" the subject before and DO find it very interesting. Sad that so many Protestants interpret Scripture for themselves. That leaves it open to as many interpretations as there are people. Catholics go for the interpretation of their Church, the one with half of ALL Christians in it.
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Do you think that we Christians are MEANT to interpret Scripture for ourselves?
Then, are all/any interpretations correct?
Are there NO incorrect interpretations? If so, WHO has the authority to say yea or nay?
Who guides Protestants on Scripture, faith and morals? The local pastor? Who?
You might try reading yourself. I've been posting on this very subject for several weeks now. Among other things you may not know, that 30-40,000 number you've been quoting includes your 3-8000 Catholic denominations. If you're going to accept the one, you have to accept both.
Nonsense. You don't, CAN'T know their heart.
Catholic and Christian are not synonymous, interchangable terms. One does not by default mean the other.
A person can be a Christian and not Catholic and be Catholic and not be Christian, and based on the voting patterns and church attendance of your average Catholic, it's more than likely that more than half the Catholics cannot claim the title of Christian.
2. I have "perused" the subject before and DO find it very interesting. Sad that so many Protestants interpret Scripture for themselves. That leaves it open to as many interpretations as there are people. Catholics go for the interpretation of their Church, the one with half of ALL Christians in it.
Individual Catholics interpret their church teachings for themselves as well. Otherwise there would be no liberal voting Catholics.
the official statement of faith of the Catholic church is absolutely no guarantee of compliance by it's membership. For all the criticism non-Catholics receive for YOPIOS, the Catholics are dealing with their own personal interpretation of both Scripture and the CCC and the statements made by the magisterium.
there are as many different interpretations of the Catholic Bible, the CCC, and the bulls and pronouncements of the magisterium as there are Catholics.
And that doesn't even address the syncretism that exists within Catholicism, the Catholic teachings mixed with superstition and voo doo in many third world predominantly Catholic hell holes.
No, the Holy Spirit guides us in interpreting Scripture. The natural man cannot correctly interpret Scripture because he is without the Spirit of God enlightening him.
Then, are all/any interpretations correct?
If they are consistent with Scripture, they are. Scripture interprets Scripture. If you have an interpretation that contradicts other Scripture, it's wrong. It doesn't take rocket science to figure that one out.
Are there NO incorrect interpretations? If so, WHO has the authority to say yea or nay?
Who NEEDS authority to tell them if they are correct or not. Then you'd be following man and not God.
How do I know that some man or group of men has the correct interpretation? Because they said so?
Who guides Protestants on Scripture, faith and morals? The local pastor? Who?
The Holy Spirit through the word of God.
Sin is sin and clearly laid out in Scripture. What about *Do not lie*, *Do not steal*, Do not murder*, *Do not commit adultery* needs someone to tell me what they mean?
Do YOU need someone to tell you what they mean?
Assertion, not a fact, do a little research. I agree with you regarding the implosion, and the cause.
That man converts himself, cooperation with God before regeneration, all the Marian doctrines all in opposition to God's Word. The organizational model in practice is opposed to Mathew 18/20, Luke 22, 1 Peter 5.
“There is no unity within the church with widely varying beliefs like it’s adherents have”
The beliefs of the Catholic Church are contained in the
Catechism of the Catholic Church, not in the mind of Nancy Pelosi. For any “Catholic” that can’t abide by the doctrine of the faith please don’t let the door hit you in the rear. A protestant faith awaits you.
Much later, and while 'so much of the terrible practices' were done away with, the rest remaineth.
Christ's Church on earth is made up of us sinful mortals...
Better change that to 'sinful Catholic mortals' else you are in violation of Catholic dogma.
Or better yet, accepting the word of God as the word of God before doing what you have commented on.
We know that the Catholic vote is and always has been mostly democrat.
Why does the Catholic denomination support abortion and the gay agenda and the left? I think a lot of it is explained by reading these threads, where even the supposedly pro-life conservative Catholics fight to protect the Catholic vote and support importing more of them.
This polling of Catholic beliefs explain a lot, something that you seem to not want to know.
Those of us who oppose the democrats are interested in who the Catholics are, since the democrat party imports them by the tens of millions.
"3000-8000" different Roman Catholic denominations?? THAT is a HUGE difference, with the margin of error of 5,000, in a field of 13,000?! Lol. That is statistical hogwash. Did you ever take a stat class? I did. I hated it but I did learn about margins of error, if nothing else.
How can ANYONE take your source seriously with that kind of margin of ENORMOUS ERROR?
As for the Protestant SELF-assessment, I take them at their word. They also go on to say that SOME denominations have disappeared over the centuries. That's true too, I understand and I take them at their word on that too.
I googled both numbers, Catholic and Protestant. Show me where google or some source, like the Roman Catholic Church, says that there are 3000-8000 THOUSAND different Roman Catholic denominations.
What do you think Jesus would say to our discussion?
Protestants aren't sinful mortals? How do you know this? I thought ALL humans were sinful (except Jesus and Mary).
I know Catholic dogma and you are incorrect about that. We HUMAN BEINGS are sinful mortals, thanks to the sin of Adam and Eve. You can purchase ANY Catholic catechism and see what "we believe."
We are forgiven our sins if we confess, are TRULY sorry for them and do penance. Jesus came to us to teach us the GOOD NEWS and died on the Cross for us. What a great gift He gave to us.
Why does the Catholic denomination support abortion and the gay agenda and the left? I think a lot of it is explained by reading these threads, where even the supposedly pro-life conservative Catholics fight to protect the Catholic vote and support importing more of them.
Abortion is a mortal sin.
Homosexuality is a sin AND a choice. There is NO "gay" gene and no "bisexual" gene so people CHOOSE homosexuality or bisexuality. It's always been a sin.
This polling of Catholic beliefs explain a lot, something that you seem to not want to know.
Polls are NOTORIOUSLY slanted to what the pollsters want to happen to verify their hypothesis. I believe in polls like I believe in there being peace in the middle east this weekend.
Those of us who oppose the democrats are interested in who the Catholics are, since the democrat party imports them by the tens of millions.
I am a Catholic Republican.
Where does the Democrat party import people from? People have to be able to read and write English and be citizens to vote. Does it import cross-the-state? Where are these "imports" from?
WHICH "terrible practices" does the Church practice?
How would you know anyway, since you don't attend Mass? I assume you didn't get baptized, catechesized, receive holy communion, confirmed or married in the Church? I assume, also, that your kin were NOT honored with a Catholic Mass for the dead and buried with Catholic rites in a Catholic cemetery?
So what is the "terrible practice" that, as you so quaintly say, "remaineth" in the Catholic Church?
What? The Bible is the same for all Christians except for the one word Luther expunged from his Catholic Bible. It's the SAME BOOK. How does the SAME book tell us different things? Love God and love each other. It's pretty simple, isn't it?
That man converts himself, cooperation with God before regeneration, all the Marian doctrines all in opposition to God's Word. The organizational model in practice is opposed to Mathew 18/20, Luke 22, 1 Peter 5.
What is your point here?
Sorry, I don't get the point your making except that Mary, Jesus' mother, is anathema to you.
We honor her, like we honor the saints. We ASK her and the saints to intercede for us. We ALL talk to our family in heaven. We ALL ask for help. Honor is NOT adoration. We adore ONLY God; we venerate saints. Veneration is NOT adoration.
No, do you?
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