Posted on 02/09/2014 2:09:50 PM PST by NYer
Nor do we have any original manuscripts of the Bible, only manuscript copies made and preserved by the Catholic Church.
Thats exactly right. God gave the Catholic Church this teaching authority.
If Rome does say so herself. Cultic devotion. Thus you refused to answer the basic questions i asked in response to your previous argument by assertion.
The One, True, Apostolic Church is the CATHOLIC CHURCH. That is fact, whether protestants want to believe it or not.
Iscool:
I am aware of that, my point is after reading his introduction, he finally conceded late in it that the letters are extant.
“Disregard any PROTESTANT theology PHDs.”
Oh I see. You’re changing the end zone now that it is demonstrated your statement was false. Sorry, you didn’t require denominations, just familiarity with church history.
“Do you actually think they would say anything that proved the early Church was Catholic. I think not.”
Well, the ones I know are both truthful and objective. Your new vacillation does point out that to support your false claim requires a roman historian! Oh sure, the roman guy will be the only unbiased source! Not!
“Look to Pope Benedict 16, probably the greatest Christian historian in the world, and no one else.”
So to summarize your position:
1 you have to avoid non-Catholics who read history
2 you have to pick a roman guy or better yet a people.
What a delusional point of view you are espousing.
Why do you guys tell these stories??? Of the 5000+ manuscripts and fragments available today, only about 250 are Catholic manuscripts...
You start with an attack and bemoan the fact that people don't want to reason things out with you.
You were sooooo close to making a true statement!!!! Darn!
I’ll help. You did try hard, after all.
The One, True, Apostolic assembly is the universal bride of Christ. That is fact, whether anyone wants to believe it or not.
Iscool;
There are extant copies to Clement and Igantius as well as Irenaeus. Did you not read the introduction in Philip Schaff’s commentary on those Letters.
Iscool:
Or maybe the Mitra followers mimicked the Catholics. For the record, the OT Jews used bread and wine to celebrate the Passover. You going to criticize them as well.
The Use of Bread and Wine goes back to Melchizedek in Genesis.
According to their own Bible, not once did Christ refer to any of these that came after for His ‘gospel’. However, Christ constantly referred to those that Peter calls holy prophets.
So rather than spend the time learning what Christ said, and quoted, all this time is devoted to what Tom, Dick, and Harry had and have to say about being the closest to, not Jesus but Mary.
There is the ‘tradition of Glastonbury’, which holds as much historical weight as any of the other claims to being the one and only.
The UNIVERSAL church is THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, sometimes called Roman Catholic Church, although faiths in communion with the Catholic Church are part of the Catholic Church. It is the only faith located in every corner of the world. Worldwide, universal. God’s one, true, apostolic church. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
Christ started one Church, which is the CATHOLIC CHURCH. There is no such thing as an invisible church. His church is very visible. Just look around, you’ll find one close to you.
Of course I consider the entire undivided church of first millennium as Catholic. The manuscripts of the Bible come to us through this source.
Considering some of the books he’s written, George Sim Johnston evidently believes the early church was evolutionist.
“The UNIVERSAL church is THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, sometimes called Roman Catholic Church,”
Simply an opinion. You are making an assertion without facts to back it up. Your posts never include factual support. Because of this, no one can take them as true, unless they already believe exactly as you do. Dismissed.
“It is the only faith located in every corner of the world.”
Simply an opinion. Where does the roman church have a location (not counting their playground the Vatican), that protestants do not? You are making an assertion without facts to back it up. Your posts never include factual support. Dismissed.
“Christ started one Church”
He started one “gathering”, as He said in Greek.
“which is the CATHOLIC CHURCH.”
Repeating something twice just means you stutter. It remains your opinion. Simply an opionion. You are making an assertion without facts to back it up. Your posts never include factual support. Dismissed.
“There is no such thing as an invisible church.”
Simply an opionion. You are making an assertion without facts to back it up. Your posts never include factual support.
“His church is very visible.”
Parts of it are.
“Just look around, youll find one close to you.”
Yes, I attend one.
Come back with facts. Opinions wear thin.
Read the Bible.
“Read the Bible.”
Done. Outlined every single book. Translated large portions from original languages.
Now, get back to rounding up one or two facts and try to get them to follow you onto FR. We’ll take a look at them.
Yes, please read that CATHOLIC document called the Bible.
“Yes, please read that CATHOLIC document called the Bible.”
Simply your opinion. Again, not a single fact posted to back up an assertion.
If you cannot round up a single fact and get it to follow you back here, please at least go down to the fact store and see what they have on sale. Once you find or buy a fact, please bring it back so we can discuss it.
Until them, dismissed.
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