Posted on 02/03/2014 9:06:38 AM PST by Morgana
Mooresville, N.C. (CBS CHARLOTTE) – Head football coach of Mooresville High School, Hal Capps, has been ordered to stop baptizing players and leading them in prayer following criticism from a national organization promoting constitutional separation of church and state.
The Wisconsin-based nonprofit Freedom from Religion Foundation wrote a request last fall that coach Capps cease leading prayers and joining baptisms for his players as a base rule of separating public school activities and religious ceremonies. School Superintendent Mark Edwards met with Capps, who said, “he understood” the violation and would no longer participate in such religious observances, the Charlotte Observer reports.
“It is a violation of the Constitution for the Mooresville High School football coach to organize, lead, or participate in prayers or other religious proselytizing before, during, or after games and practices,” Patrick Elliott, attorney for Freedom from Religion Foundation, wrote to the school’s district attorney last fall.
(Excerpt) Read more at charlotte.cbslocal.com ...
Yea, as long as he doesn’t use an electric tooth brush....................
Another gutless school administration buckling to this bluffing legal spammer outfit. Makes me sick at the fecklessness of these local officials, who get scared to death of any bit of correspondence written by a hack lawyer.
No wonder I could not find this when I did a search. I thought you were kidding in the first post about the tooth brush. GOOD GRIEF.
Because, as everyone knows, the First Amendment forbids the free exercise of religion. /s
No where is it stated in the US Constitution that there is a separation of church and state. It’s neither implied nor stated explicitly. It is a lie and a fabricated morality constructed by the Progressives.
When will we fire back that this is NOT a violation of our Constitution!!
And when will someone/some school say that when you fight mosk and state, then we’ll talk.
This cowering is not only wrong it only serves to embolden the satanic left.
Everyone don’t send your kids to publik skools
From article:
“It is a violation of the Constitution for the Mooresville High School football coach to organize,lead,or participate in prayers or other religious proselytizing before,during,or after games and practices,” Patrick Elliott,attorney for Freedom from Religion Foundation,wrote to the school’s district attorney last fall.”
Does this mean he can’t go to church????!!!????
Educrats are about the most gutless of bureaucrats except with their plantation inmates to whom they will happily bully, terrorize and damage lives forever by enforcing criminal sanctions for violating one of the educrats mindless ‘zero tolerance’ protocols.
“Facing the Giants” good movie example.
The claim that the “Constitution” forbids this activity is, of course, preposterous.
But this coach’s carryings-on are outrageous. BAPTIZING players??? Where are the parents?
High school coach and administration intimidated by commies.
More bad news at eleven.
(Of course a muslim and his dirty prayer rug....)
Read the article. The players invited the coach to their group baptism, and he accepted the invitation.
...or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...
Funny how the anti-religious groups want everyone to forget about that part of the 1st amendment.
/sarc
Next, below is a post from a related thread which has been edited for the example of this thread.
The Constitution and its history is evidently not being taught in Ohio NC schools. Otherwise, Ohio officials the NC coach would probably be able to argue the following about 10th Amendment protected state power to address religious issues, displaying Christian crosses promoting baptisms and prayer for example.
First, regardless what FDR's activist justices wanted Constitution-ignorant citizens to think about Thomas Jefferson's "wall of separation," the real Jefferson had clarified the following about the 1st and 10th Amendments with respect to "government" power to address religious issues. Jefferson had indicated that the states had made the 10th Amendment to clarify in part that the states had reserved government power to address religious issues uniquely to themselves, regardless that the states had also made the 1st Amendment in part to clarify that Congress is prohibited from having such powers altogether.
“3. Resolved that it is true as a general principle and is also expressly declared by one of the amendments to the constitution that ‘the powers not delegated to the US. by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively or to the people’: and that no power over the freedom of religion, freedom of speech, or freedom of the press being delegated to the US. by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, all lawful powers respecting the same did of right remain, & were reserved, to the states or the people: that thus was manifested their determination to retain to themselves the right of judging how far the licentiousness of speech and of the press may be abridged without lessening their useful freedom, and how far those abuses which cannot be separated from their use should be tolerated rather than the use be destroyed (emphasis added); …” —Thomas Jefferson, Kentucky Resolutions, 1798.
The reason that Christians have been inexcusably letting their freedom of religious expression slip through their fingers is this imo. As a consequence of not studying the Constitution and its history for themselves, FDR's anti-religious expression justices got away with twisting how 14th Amendment lawmakers had intended for that amendment to be understood in order to rob the states of their power to address religious issues. More specifically, regardless that the 14th Amendment clearly indicates that only priviliges and immunities protected by the Constitution are to apply to the states, FDR's justices wrongly went beyond just privileges and immunities and applied the 1st Amendment's prohibition on Congress's power to address religious issues to the states. This is evidenced by the following excerpt from Cantwell v. Connecticut.
"The First Amendment declares that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. The Fourteenth Amendment has rendered the legislatures of the states as incompetent as Congress to enact such laws (emphasis added). The constitutional inhibition of legislation on the subject of religion has a double aspect." --Mr. Justice Roberts, Cantwell v. State of Connecticut, 1940.
Glaring evidence of the Supreme Court's impropriety with respect to twisting the 14th Amendment is the following. john Bingham, the main author of Section 1 of 14A, had officially clarified, on several occasions, that 14A did not take away any state rights.
“The adoption of the proposed amendment will take from the States no rights (emphasis added) that belong to the States.” —John Bingham, Appendix to the Congressional Globe. (See bottom half of first column)“No right (emphasis added) reserved by the Constitution to the States should be impaired…” —John Bingham, Appendix to the Congressional Globe. (See top half of 1st column)
“Do gentlemen say that by so legislating we would strike down the rights of the State? God forbid. I believe our dual system of government essential to our national existance.” —John Bingham, Appendix to the Congressional Globe. (See bottom half of third column)
So since Jefferson had clearly indicated that the states had the unique, 10A-protected power to address religious issues long before 14A was ratified, Bingham's words confirm that the states still had such power after 14A was ratified.
On the other hand, what good are our constitutonal protections when parents don't make sure that their children are taught the Constitution and its history as constitutional lawmakers had intended for it to be understood?
In the case of this NC high school coach, the coach basically has the 10th Amendment protected power to do baptisms and lead in prayer, but must respect any local and state laws which may reasonably limit such things, and cannot violate anybody's 14A protections.
Time for one, or more, of the players to stand up and lead the team in prayer!
The school is right. The students should be doing normal healthy things, like taking each other to the prom and wearing women’s clothes (bitter sarcasm).
This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)
The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.