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To: Gamecock

I’m not Presbyterian, but I look forward to reading a rebuttal from someone in the PCUSA. I’m not disagreeing with you (since I don’t know one from the other). I’d just like to hear what the other side says.


4 posted on 01/23/2014 2:21:47 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92
We'll just have to munch on some popcorn until someone comes along.


7 posted on 01/23/2014 2:26:46 PM PST by Gamecock (If you like your constitution, you can keep your constitution. Period. (M.S.))
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To: Bryanw92
My father was a Presbyterian minister in NC for over 35 years until his retirement in 1975. Being from the South, he was more closely aligned with the PCUS, a more conservative body than PCUSA, but this was prior to the founding of the PCA. I married one of his former parishioners and always thought of myself as Presbyterian.

In 1988 when George H. W. Bush was running against Dukakis. omeone (maybe my MIL) sent us a subscription to The Presbyterian Survey which had both party platforms printed right beside the church's position on each issue. Even then, it was very pro-choice, pro-gay, and pro-women pastors (which was unusual at the time). I was truly shocked and realized then that I did not believe in the same things as the denomination to which I had belonged since the age of 14!

Although these issues do not touch the small local church such as the one to which I belonged at the time, I have never felt myself to be Presbyterian since then. I now go to a Methodist Church. I still do not agree with everything that goes on there, but it is a far cry from the PCUSA!

21 posted on 01/23/2014 3:53:15 PM PST by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: Bryanw92
I look forward to reading a rebuttal from someone in the PCUSA.

As someone whose membership was in the PCUSA* until about two years ago, I think you will be waiting a looong time for a rebutal from the PCUSA side.

*Our congregation split from the PCUSA to join the Evangelical Presbyterian Church at that time for most of these same reasons. We did manage to escape PCUSA with our property...

28 posted on 01/23/2014 4:28:46 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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