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To: Gamecock
In the passage the person is appealing to his good works as the reason to let him in. His faith is not once used as a claim. Reliance on works is the road to damnation. Matthew 7:22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

The scripture you posted clearly says that those who were turned away worked "lawlessness". This is and can only be a willfull disobedience to the laws of God. In other words, these folks claimed Christ and believed they were following Christ but their beliefs and actions told Christ otherwise

18 posted on 12/12/2013 1:34:56 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
You can puff your self up in your self righteousness all you want but no matter how many times I give this verse to the law teachers and preachers they strangely never respond back.
Before I place that scripture here when ever in the New Testament when it says Obey Christ is means to obey the Gospel, to believe on the Gospel... that is what is implied.
Ohh yeah ? I heard it all, some will say " but, but, the demons believe also " really ? yes they believe that Jesus is the Christ, but they will and can never believe on the Gospel because they were never " ORDAINED " unto eternal life.... opps, that's another Scripture the Arminians can't seem to explain, and yes I do believe in election.


Matthew 5:20 (Authorized (King James) Version)
20. For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Try to get your brain and your self righteousness around this one.
Most of the time the law preachers, teachers and Arminians don't answer that one and are strangely quit.

Hey ? if Obeying God and keeping the law perfectly would get you in good stead with Christ ? then ? all the Pharisees and Scribes law preachers and all would be best of buddies with Christ right ?
Isn't that what your advocating here ?
Christ as the last day would say " ohh your scribes and Pharisees I know you the best out of all the people in the world because you kept the law the best now come into paradise " .

Jesus said clearly in that verse unless your righteousness exceeds that of the Pharisees and Scribes ( because after all ? they were the bestest law keepers eve'a ) then in no wise will you never ( ENTER ) the kingdom of heaven.
WOW !
What ? your excuse ? that it's not in the bible ?
It's right there plan as day.
Jesus made a impossible statement and impossible standard to keep.
Are you arrogant and proud to think ? that your own righteousness could exceed or does exceed that even of the Pharisees and Scribes of old Israel ?
50 posted on 12/12/2013 2:09:11 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: DouglasKC; daniel1212; Gamecock
The scripture you posted clearly says that those who were turned away worked "lawlessness". This is and can only be a willfull disobedience to the laws of God. In other words, these folks claimed Christ and believed they were following Christ but their beliefs and actions told Christ otherwise

Your statement would evoke the term 'unbelief' for such individuals.

114 posted on 12/12/2013 3:38:45 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: DouglasKC

Works done by those without faith are done out of lawlessness.


127 posted on 12/12/2013 4:06:38 PM PST by Gamecock (There are not just two ways to respond to God but three: irreligion, religion, and the gospel. (TK))
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