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[Piers] Morgan to [Rick] Warren: Will Christians’ Perspective on Gay Marriage ever ‘Evolve’?
Truth Revolt ^ | 12/7/2013 | Bradford Thomas

Posted on 12/07/2013 7:30:54 AM PST by markomalley

On Piers Morgan Live Friday, Morgan asked Pastor Rick Warren whether he thought Christians’ views on homosexuality and same-sex marriage would ever “evolve” as they had for other perspectives in the Bible that “seem very anachronistic.” Warren replied no, adding, “I fear the disapproval of God more than I fear your disapproval or the disapproval of society.”

Morgan invited Warren to discuss several topics, including Warren’s opinion of the new Pope, homosexuality, and same-sex marriage. In a mutually respectful dialog, the two differed on many issues, most notably same-sex marriage.

Warren: Tolerance, Piers, used to mean we treat each other with mutual respect, even if you have major disagreements. Today, tolerance has been changed to mean all ideas are equally valid. Well that’s nonsense. All ideas are not equally valid. ...

Morgan: But do you believe in equality for all?

When Warren answered yes, Morgan continued.

Morgan: Then how can you as a Christian man, and a great man ... how can you espouse genuine equality if you don't allow gay people the same right to get married as straight people?

Warren contended that his issue is really with the societal redefinition of the term marriage, referencing the growing trend of Orwellian “doublespeak,” or twisting of the meaning of many important terms in modern culture.

Morgan: There are many things in the Bible that today wouldn’t fly... there are a number of things in the Bible that seem very anachronistic. ... Can you see a time when not just you, but other Christian preachers, and indeed the Catholic Church and others, say, you know what, real equality means everyone has the same right to get married, gay or straight?

Warren: I cannot see that happening in my life. I fear the disapproval of God more than I fear your disapproval or the disapproval of society.

At which point, many in the audience broke out in applause.


TOPICS: Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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Piers Morgan asking Rick Warren about the position of the Catholic Church on something?

Earth to Piers:


1 posted on 12/07/2013 7:30:54 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Perhaps if gays could ever evolve to procreate naturally?


2 posted on 12/07/2013 7:32:32 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: markomalley

>>Warren: I cannot see that happening in my life. I fear the disapproval of God more than I fear your disapproval or the disapproval of society.

Not a big fan of Rick Warren, but I am very proud of him for that statement.


3 posted on 12/07/2013 7:36:30 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: markomalley
Warren: I cannot see that happening in my life. I fear the disapproval of God more than I fear your disapproval or the disapproval of society.

Well, I'll be. Warren finally winds up on the right side for a change.

4 posted on 12/07/2013 7:40:44 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: markomalley

“I fear the disapproval of God more than I fear your disapproval or the disapproval of society.”

Amen.


5 posted on 12/07/2013 7:44:06 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: markomalley

There will always be people who will modify and tinker things until they are barely recognisable. Like Mormonism. Or how fornication somehow became an “okay” sin. When the tinkerers have numbers on their side, voila, the definitions change.


6 posted on 12/07/2013 7:44:22 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: markomalley

Evidently Morgan does not realize that to some Protestants, myself included, the pope is almost as alien as the ayatollahs.

And not all Christian believe in evolution, either.


7 posted on 12/07/2013 7:45:36 AM PST by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: markomalley

Ok. Piers is no better than any muslim whk defines God’s prophet as Christ descending from the cross. This is not the same story and Christ.

If it is for gay marriage blessed horror it is not Christian, period. It is not the same God. The same way with the word Catholic. It is the doctrine which defines the word Catholic, and any other doctrine requires its new definition and label.

Piers is using a stealth variation of word destruction the way of the memory hole. There is no “evolution”. Every different DNA is its own patent. Piers proves that diversity relativism into a single basket liberal idea does breed a single kind into uniracial fascism.


8 posted on 12/07/2013 7:46:18 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: markomalley

GOD’s word never changes so NO!


9 posted on 12/07/2013 7:52:10 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: markomalley

Can’t this silly English twit go back to his homeland and eat a crumpet or something? Why does he even have a show anyway? All he does is whinge about America and Americans.


10 posted on 12/07/2013 7:54:01 AM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Bryanw92; Colonel_Flagg

Whoa, color me shocked. He actually stood up to him in the right way for the right thing.


11 posted on 12/07/2013 7:54:45 AM PST by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: Berosus

Evolution requires a rebuild, it is a software drawing board process.

The “evolution” they talk about is something completely different. If my DNA is different than yours, I am different, I have not particularly evolved from nor evolving to yourself. But there in lay the fascist narcissist liberal: to them we have to admire them as a the evolved specie, as our descendant of purer race, as something we owe to, where as the “traditionalists” are backwards subhumans worshipping ancestors.

Liberals hide these finer foundation points of their thinking. They do not come out with these ideas out of thin air. It is all self serving in their feelings of racial superiority. We are the monkeys, they are the new holy PC sex advanced race and our superiors.

It is like night and day, heaven and hell, gays and non gay society, there is no “evolution”, but completely different cults requiring different labels proselytizing. They cannot come out the closet and admit they come from Satan. Obama does the same when he pretends coming in as a heterosexual tolerating homosexuals, when he is a closet homosexual.


12 posted on 12/07/2013 7:56:55 AM PST by lavaroise
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13 posted on 12/07/2013 7:57:18 AM PST by Gamecock (There are not just two ways to respond to God but three: irreligion, religion, and the gospel. (TK))
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Every once in a while Warren mans up and says the right thing.

Good for him.


14 posted on 12/07/2013 7:58:01 AM PST by Gamecock (There are not just two ways to respond to God but three: irreligion, religion, and the gospel. (TK))
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To: markomalley

God’s word does not change and God warns us not to change it. I guess the life of Rich’s son was not enough of a warning.


15 posted on 12/07/2013 8:01:26 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: markomalley

Pseudo.


16 posted on 12/07/2013 8:31:54 AM PST by This I Wonder32460
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To: markomalley
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17 posted on 12/07/2013 8:33:55 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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Then how can you as a Christian man, and a great man ... how can you espouse genuine equality if you don't allow gay people the same right to get married as straight people?

Alinsky tactic. RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.

18 posted on 12/07/2013 8:34:54 AM PST by Flick Lives (The U.S. is dead to me.)
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Morgan: Then how can you as a Christian man, and a great man ... how can you espouse genuine equality if you don't allow gay people the same right to get married as straight people?

Rick Warren

19 posted on 12/07/2013 10:11:54 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: markomalley

Will it ever contradict its principles, you mean?


20 posted on 12/07/2013 10:13:42 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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