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To: aimhigh; GeronL
Laws control sin to keep sin from overcoming civilization.

So you think that the Christian "conservative" approach is to advocate for law that aggressively pursues and hushes any outward evidence of homosexuality?

I'd rather STOP and RESTRAIN law that would, for example, punish a theme park for refusing to allow openly gay men in where children were present. It should be LEGAL, and protect right, that a theme park could do just that, and a school could absolutely rise up and slam the door in the faces of "gay pride" advocates without worry of the state or federal "moral" government punishing it for being homophobic.

Laws don't control sin -- they punish offenders. Laws are necessary, they are right, in that respect. Capital punishment I believe in fully because it isn't punishment, it's an example of a law keeping something bad from overcoming again.

The Founding Fathers didn't include laws against all kinds of things in the Constitution. They trusted it to their moral Christian compatriots to do it another way, and they did. Your "libertarian" template is badly flawed, I think, unless I read you wrong.

48 posted on 11/19/2013 2:01:05 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny
The Founding Fathers didn't include laws against all kinds of things in the Constitution.

False argument. The founding fathers left it up to the states to outlaw all kinds of things. And the states did.

49 posted on 11/20/2013 9:34:47 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: xzins; Finny
A (fellow Catholic) friend was troubled that we were demanding from "gays" what we demand from no one else: that they live a life of loneliness and frustration. Thinking about it, I realized he was making the assumption that for the rest of us, heteros, life is just a sexual wonderland with no sacrifice, or not that much sacrifice.

I think the God-honest truth is that almost all of us, for part of our lives at least, have to live a level of sexual continence which is more difficult than we were bargaining for.

You are living a difficult sexual continence when you are young and full of fire, but unmarried;

or when, after years of careful discernment, you have taken a vow of celibacy and BAM! Mr. or Ms. Made-for-You glides smilingly into your life;

and again when you are married but because of geographic distance or chronic illness or disability, your spouse is long absent from your embrace;

and again if you have a wrecked marriage in your background, civilly divorced but canonically still valid;

or when your spouse emotionally "unfriends" but an old acquaintance is suddenly sending out vibes of friend-friend-friend and like-like-like.

What I'm saying is that everybody, no matter what their "orientation," has to learn to live chastity with an uneasy grace, not infrequently through long seasons of loneliness and struggle.

There's no room for "triumphalism" here by "straights"; neither is there room for "pride" by "gays". What Christ teaches us through His Law is right, because it is based on the truth about our human nature, and on our own real flourishing in this life and in the next.

But living it is not easy for anyone. Living it requires ardent prayers for each one of us, by the whole Communion of Saints .

50 posted on 11/22/2013 4:23:18 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Takes one to know one, and vice versa.)
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