Posted on 11/12/2013 3:47:47 PM PST by NYer
Yep, history is fun. For example, the Roman Catholic Church opposed religious freedom right up to Vatican II (the same Vatican II routinely decried by FR traditionalists and closet sedevacantists), even to the point of censoring Catholic commentators advocating religious freedom and forbidding Catholics from reading Protestant Bibles. So it seems Bellarmine’s treatise fell upon deaf ears within his own church. What’s that old saying about a prophet and his own country?
Bookmarked.
Not the first immigrant to American left Europe running from Catholics. It was protestants that drove other Christian faiths out of Europe. And the Catholics that came to America were ran out of Europe those friendly protestants. They’ve always been such a friendly bunch. Anyone care to talk about what protestants did to other protestants at the Salem witch trials.
Ironic that it is Catholics that are leading battles in the courts today and not the Bornigans.
“History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose. “ — Thomas Jefferson to Baron von Humboldt, 1813
“And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors.” —Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823
My Mom’s Lutheran Protestant parents were okay with her dating my French Catholic Dad after they learned he and his family were Republicans. They thought all Catholics were democrats.
According to a book I have, the reason Hessians were sent to America was because Baron Von Hesse told English buyers of mercenaries, that they should not buy mercenaries from the other provinces of Germany, because those rulers might send (gasp) CATHOLICS! who would march on London, depose the King and make the Pope the new king!
If the buyers bought only from Von Hesse he would make sure all HIS mercenaries were Protestants.
Von Hesse was himself Catholic.
The State of Maryland was founded by Catholics.
The majority of the great cities of America were founded by Catholics. Without Catholics, starting with Columbus, bringing Christianity to the New World, there would be no United States.
Oh, now. I'm descended from several Protestant groups driven out of France, Alsace-Lorraine, Pfalz, The Palatinate, the Rhineland, Savoy, Moravia and Bohemia, by Catholics. That's not to say that all Protestant groups were sweetness and light, especially those donning the mantle of State Church. They weren't. One might get the impression that state churches were the problem.
It is fun, and interesting. Thanks for sharing.
All Blue, Democrat as the day is long, too. Gee, thanks, lol.
With a large influx of Catholic-Irish immigrants, Massachusetts has become much more favorably inclined toward Catholicism.
Today we Protestants mostly see Catholics as natural allies and assets in our fight to save America.
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I can’t say how good it is to see your comment.
We Catholics feel the same way toward y’all.
Placemarker
The majority, I do not think so. As to Columbus, the Protestants improved the real estate. Where would anyone rather live, south or north of the Rio Grande.
Perhaps the Church, has noted, with the perspective of nearly 2 millennia, the degeneration of each republican form of government into a tyranny (beginning with the Roman Empire) and therefore has reason to warn against such governments. I pray that our constitutional republic will survive, but I’m afraid the jury is still out.
... and the form of governance advocated in the stead of a Republic would be what?
Interesting statement. I thought that 11 out of the original 13 colonies had Calvinist state religions and drove Catholics, Baptists and Quakers out (or killed them).
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