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Feelings of failure common among early-return missionaries, study says [Mormon mishies]
KSL.com ^ | Nov. 5, 2013 | Celeste Tholen Rosenlof

Posted on 11/07/2013 4:58:58 AM PST by Colofornian

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To: Elsie

Don’t need no stinkin’ rules.


41 posted on 11/08/2013 4:22:05 AM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Elsie
And what describes avoidance of MORMON quotes? Fear?

Good morning. That was a Mormon quote.

"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
Ezra Taft Benson

42 posted on 11/08/2013 6:30:22 AM PST by laotzu
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To: Colofornian
It's well know and documented that anti-Mormon's deceive. They use half truths and outright lies to spread their venom.

Leaving out most of the original article because it doesn't fit their negative and vile narrative is common.

Left out of the original article
In response to the study, LDS Church Spokesperson Cody Craynor issued a statement encouraging members to reach out to early-returning missionaries.

“It is our hope that all Church members and visitors to our local congregations will be warmly received and feel the love and support of our faith communities," he wrote. "This extends to elders and sisters returning home and adjusting to life after their missions regardless of the duration of their service or personal circumstances.”


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In her presentation, Doty said that missionaries returning early from the field may already be hypersensitive to the situation, and the fact that early returns are handled differently from ward to ward could affect the return missionary’s perception. Those who perceived their ward members received them well from their early return had decreased feelings of failure.

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Those who felt they were received well upon their return by ward members were less likely to become inactive. Additionally, having strong spiritual experiences on their missions increased their chances of staying active after an early return.

I was raised a Southern Baptist and converted to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints at the age of 21. At 22, I served a mission in California. I came home two months early due to health problems. I've been an active Church member for almost 30 years. Married in the Salt Lake Temple. I have 6 kids and my oldest son just returned from his very successful mission in California.

I personally was well received by my ward. But it didn't matter if I was or wasn't received well, the gospel is still true no matter what people do. I will always be active in it until Jesus Christ returns and tells me His work is finished.

The original article is about a very small minority of the total missionary population who, like me have to return home from their missions early.
43 posted on 11/08/2013 6:40:04 AM PST by StormPrepper
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To: Dr. Zzyzx
I read your post #30 several times. It's very nice, thank you for posting.

No unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing; persecutions may rage, mobs may combine, armies may assemble, calumny may defame, but the truth of God will go forth boldly, nobly, and independent, till it has penetrated every continent, visited every clime, swept every country, and sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished, and the Great Jehovah shall say the work is done. —Joseph Smith—History of the Church, 4:540.

I may put that as my desktop image.
44 posted on 11/08/2013 6:48:18 AM PST by StormPrepper
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To: laotzu
Good ol' Ezra!!





In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.


1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.

I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.

Ezra Taft Benson

(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)     http://www.lds.org/liahona/1981/06/fourteen-fundamentals-in-following-the-prophet?lang=eng

45 posted on 11/08/2013 7:29:02 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: StormPrepper
It's well know and documented that anti-Mormon's deceive. They use half truths and outright lies to spread their venom.

It's well know and documented that Mormon's deceive. They use half truths and outright lies to spread their venom.


And, if they do NOT cling to polygamy; they are DAMNED!! (according to one faily highranking MORMON source...)


"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)


46 posted on 11/08/2013 7:31:34 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: StormPrepper
I've been an active Church member for almost 30 years.

Are you one of the 15% or so 0f ALL Mormons who possess a TR?

47 posted on 11/08/2013 7:32:39 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: StormPrepper
No unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing;

Watch out for the HALLOWED ones!

48 posted on 11/08/2013 7:33:29 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

...let the tares grow up with the wheat until the harvest...


49 posted on 11/08/2013 7:34:13 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
HALLOWED ONES Speaking Today
50 posted on 11/08/2013 7:38:40 AM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Gamecock; F15Eagle

I imagine this is common in a lot of religions and denominations.

I was only able to complete a few months of my Latvian Orthodox mission work. It was hard getting through hall those texts.


51 posted on 11/08/2013 7:43:16 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido

Just spewed Diet Mountain Dew on my monitor.


52 posted on 11/08/2013 8:14:16 AM PST by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: StormPrepper; Elsie; Godzilla; All
Leaving out most of the original article because it doesn't fit their negative and vile narrative is common...Left out of the original article Those who felt they were received well upon their return by ward members were less likely to become inactive. Additionally, having strong spiritual experiences on their missions increased their chances of staying active after an early return.

Stormie, I was acknowledging stuff like this already five months ago...here, I'll repost what I told Godzilla June 10 (note sentence 2 acknowledgement):

...there's a "dual effect" that goes on...a high % discover some things about Mormonism -- and about themselves -- and slowly jumpstart their eventual exodus out...But there's also a % who are "steeled" by the experience...and, long-term-wise, wind up being both higher givers to the cult as well as a key pool for future leadership fodder. (And, hey, somebody's gotta clean the Mormon facilities' toilets for free!)"
Mormons to Have 85,000 Missionaries This Year

I was raised a Southern Baptist and converted to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints at the age of 21.

So you and West have something more in common, after all: You're BOTH apostate Baptists!

Well, saw last night that West has elected to give up the ghost of monitoring FR. He's abandoned his self-appointed watchman's post. Giving up. Demoralized. Goin' AWOL.

53 posted on 11/08/2013 10:10:56 AM PST by Colofornian
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...having strong spiritual experiences on their missions increased their chances of staying active after an early return.

Grant Palmer is a prominent ex-Mormon.

Go to the link below...and you'll see Palmer claiming that...

...approximately 45% of return-LDS-missionaries no longer have a temple recommend within five years of returning.

Cracks in the Mormon Dam
54 posted on 11/08/2013 10:56:40 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian; All
Grant Palmer is a prominent ex-Mormon

Prominent? Would that be in anti-Mormon circles because I've never heard of the guy.

"...approximately 45% of return-LDS-missionaries no longer have a temple recommend within five years of returning."

That's because LDS Missionaries check in with Grant Palmer for five years after their missions. Is that what you and him are claiming?....Really?

It has to be true because a "prominent" anti-Mormon says it. How in the world could I possibly doubt the validity of such a statement!!11one /sarc

Not to mention, even though I can't fathom how he comes to that number... except that he pulled it out of, you know where, having a Temple Recommend is not an indication of activity. Especially in areas that may not have a temple close by. Having a recommend assumes activity, not having one just means they need to have an interview scheduled.


55 posted on 11/08/2013 12:57:53 PM PST by StormPrepper
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To: StormPrepper
That's because LDS Missionaries check in with Grant Palmer for five years after their missions. Is that what you and him are claiming?....Really?

Hey, Grant has his inside sources!
Three Meetings with a LDS General Authority, 2012- 2013

56 posted on 11/08/2013 3:32:59 PM PST by Colofornian
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