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1 posted on 11/06/2013 10:45:29 AM PST by Gamecock
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2 posted on 11/06/2013 10:47:08 AM PST by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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John Calvin’s reflections on the Reformation are a good place to begin. In the course of his life, he wrote three important treatises defending and explaining the need for reform in the church. The first was a quite personal statement defending the reformation in Geneva, usually called “The Reply to Sadoleto” (1539). The second, “The Necessity of Reforming the Church” (1543), was written at the request of Martin Bucer for presentation to Emperor Charles V at a meeting of the imperial Diet. The third treatise, “The True Method of Giving Peace to Christendom and Reforming the Church” (1548), was written in response to the imperial victories over the Protestant princes and the imposition of the Augsburg Interim requiring Protestant conformity to certain Roman Catholic practices.

While there are differences among these treatises, reflecting the different occasions on which they were written, they really speak with one voice, giving us Calvin’s understanding of the basic concerns of the Reformation. These treatises show that for him the Reformation had five key concerns (not the traditional five points of Calvinism!).

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3 posted on 11/06/2013 10:51:09 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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Wow, Protestants suddenly concerned with sacred tradition.
5 posted on 11/06/2013 11:50:05 AM PST by HapaxLegamenon
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Godfrey is an excellent teacher.


6 posted on 11/06/2013 12:55:42 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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The third treatise, “The True Method of Giving Peace to Christendom and Reforming the Church” (1548), was written in response to the imperial victories over the Protestant princes and the imposition of the Augsburg Interim requiring Protestant conformity to certain Roman Catholic practices.

Interesting. I had not heard of that one. I'll have to find a copy.

7 posted on 11/06/2013 1:24:03 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("You keep using that verse, but I do not think it means what you think it means.")
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Against this corruption, Calvin insisted that worship must be directed by the Word of God alone:


That is all we need, no more and no less.


8 posted on 11/06/2013 1:36:50 PM PST by ravenwolf
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“It may be safe to say that the greatest event for Christendom in the last 1500 years was the Protestant Reformation.

Sorry, but from a historical point of view, that statement shows how blind westerners are -- even of their own history

there is no mention of the great conversions of Germanics, Vikings, Slavs, Hungarians, Neiman Mongols

There is no mention of the genocide of the Ancient Church of the East by Tamerlane (where he wiped out an entire Church which at one time was 1/3rd of the Christian peopulation)

Or the elimination of Christianity in Yemen, once a Christian land

Then the suppression of Orthodoxy under the Ottomans

Or on the positive sides, the expansion of Ethiopian Tewahod Christianity

Or just in Western Europe, the rise of monasteries, storing knowledge during the barbarian invasions, the conversion of the Franks to Christianity etc.

The Reformation was an important historical event, but by no means the "greatest" historical event for Christendom in the past 1500 years.

17 posted on 11/06/2013 10:22:32 PM PST by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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Also, this article talks purely of the Calvinistic point of view. It mentions nothing of Lutheran beliefs that retained and retains much of orthodoxy. And it mentions nothing of evangelicals or pentecostals or adventists etc. who have different belief, the radical reformers who calvin and luther etc. despised.


18 posted on 11/06/2013 10:24:39 PM PST by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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Will read later.


21 posted on 11/07/2013 12:00:29 AM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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