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To: IbJensen; Legatus; piusv; don-o
"He wants the homosexuals to join in and contribute their talents."

Of course he does. Where else can the homosexuals go for the words of eternal life?

Read this:

"Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor ldolators, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers shall inherit the kingdom of God." (I Corinthians 6:9-10).

And then read the next verses:

"And such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God." (I Corinthians 6:11).

"And such were some of you" is a message of hope which seems lost in the church in the 21th century. If change was not required the Bible would not speak against homosexuality; if change was not possible the apostle Paul could never have written: "And such were some of you."

Yes, we want the homosexuals to join in and contribute their talents; we want them healed and sanctified, just like the rest of us sinners.

But you never hear about "Courage", the Catholic support group for chastity for the homosexually inclined, just like you never hear of the "Couple to Couple League", the support group for chastity for married people. The very helps we have for living in sexual virtue, have been buried under a bushel. Or really, buried under a thousand tons of rubbish.

I fully blame the Bishops and pastors for that (including the Chief Pastor)... but ought I not first to blame myself?

IbJensen: what are you doing, what am I doing, to welcome homosexuals to the Sacraments -- particularly Penance and Communion --- and to help them heal their deep personality wounds and live as peaceful, joyful, hopeful penitents with the rest of us?

We have much to repent of as well: Paul does mention "REVILERS" and there's a label that sticks.

Who even gives us --- us, you know, the revilers, let alone them, the homosexuals --- a profound and challenging example of living as a penitent, saved by Christ, nourished by His Sacraments, shielded in the embrace of Mater Ecclesia, our dear Mother the Church?

13 posted on 10/20/2013 7:19:12 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Acquire a peaceful spirit, and then thousands around you will be saved. " - St. Seraphim of Sarov)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

There are four sorts of active sinners I don’t want serving on the liturgy committee or anything else for that matter:

Murderers
Defrauders of widows and orphans
Defrauders of workers
Homosexuals

I didn’t just pick those four at random.


14 posted on 10/20/2013 11:25:08 AM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Homosexuals and their kissing cousins, the pedophiles, are impossible to cure of their evil obsession. Most all never want to return to normalcy. Their souls belong already to Satan.

To yap on and on about the inclusion of those who practice homosexuality is a waste of breath.

The new pope, Francis, is to the Roman Catholic Church as Obama is to America. Satan has been ensconced in the halls of the Vatican for decades, if not centuries. Those abnormal humans have indeed found a home there.


23 posted on 10/20/2013 3:24:19 PM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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