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To: Rashputin
Calvinists are, as a rule, the nastiest people about trashing Mormons, Catholics or anyone else with whom they have the slightest doctrinal differences. They are exceeded in said nastiest only by the Godless-Marxist-Liberal-Islamofacist alliance.

The Calvinist were also enthusiastically beheading Anabaptists and Catholics at the same time the former were minding their own business and the later were fighting off the invasion of the Muslim hordes invading southeasten Europe.

It was the Anabaptists who are largely responsible for bringing the tradition of religious freedom to America, not the Calvinistic Protestants.

It was the Catholics who were largely responsible for protecting Europe from the invading Muslim hordes, not the Calvinists.

So, on one hand, I don't mind seeing them get their come-uppance from a Calvinist trashing thread. But, on the other, I will observe that they are one of the most conservative voting Christian groups in America and it is unproductive and undesirable to form circular firing squads.

18 posted on 09/24/2013 2:25:34 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

Oh, the horror!!


19 posted on 09/24/2013 2:26:52 PM PDT by colorcountry (The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
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To: Vigilanteman
Calvinists are, as a rule, the nastiest people about trashing Mormons

I love the way you throw in the non-Christian Mormon religion, that is designed to appear as Christian in the mix.

Pope John II made it clear where the Catholic faith places Mormonism.

The Catholic church considers Mormonism a new religion, a polytheistic religion of many Gods, not Christian.

21 posted on 09/24/2013 2:35:33 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: Vigilanteman

Baptists theologically disagree with Catholics much less than do Presbyterians but I have noticed that everywhere I have been, Presbyterians seem to get along socially with Catholics much better than do Baptists.


28 posted on 09/24/2013 2:57:58 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: Vigilanteman

It was the Anabaptists who are largely responsible for bringing the tradition of religious freedom to America, not the Calvinistic Protestants.
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The puritans were calvinists as were the scotch irish presbyterians on the frontier. Also the small french huegonaut and swedish reformed church settlements were calvinist. As well the larger german reformed and dutch reformed churches in new york were calvinist.

The swiss mennonite and amish in pennsylvania were anabaptists—but they played no part in the revolutionary war.

Mostly that war was fought by calvinists.

“It is estimated that two-thirds of the 3 million Americans at the time of the Revolutionary War were Reformed Protestants, and even that leaves out the many Episcopalians, who had a Reformed confession in the Thirty-Nine Articles, and the descendants of the French Huguenots. Presbyterians, above all, were responsible for convincing the colonists to revolt even though, prior to the war, about 40% of the population was pro-British. “

http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=5984

King Georg Himself characterized the revolutionary war as a presbyterian parson’s war.
http://www.saf.org/journal/17/thereligiousrootsoftheamericanrevolutionandtherighttokeepandbeararms.pdf

As it happened the calvinists all over europe were the great losers of the wars of the 17th century. That’s why they ended up in such great numbers in north america.

our constitution and the federalist papers—that is the internal checks and balances were mostly constructed by the very calvinist James Madison and his friends.

The calvinists were the majority at the time of the revolution. However, they slipped into minority status outpaced by methodists and baptists—by the 1840’s.

You’re right to say that the Calvinists were/are a prickly lot. But you also need to give credit where credit is due.


29 posted on 09/24/2013 3:03:18 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: Vigilanteman

This is from Catholic Answers explaining why Mormonism is not even Christian but an entirely different religion.

*Why doesn’t the Catholic Church accept Mormon baptism?*

“although Mormons and Catholics use the same words, those words have completely unrelated meanings for each religion. The Mormon’s very concept of God is infinitely different from that of Christians—even though they call themselves the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

Mormons believe that God is only one of many gods who were once men and that each of us in turn can become what God is now. This process of men becoming gods is said to go back infinitely. But of course none of these gods can be infinite if they are multiple and had a beginning and are actually human beings. In Mormons’ view, both Jesus and the Father are what we would call glorified creatures.

They also believe that Jesus came into existence after the Father, and that the Father and the Son are not one in being. Thus, although they use the phrase “the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit,” in their usage this phrase takes on a meaning that is actually polytheistic and pagan rather than trinitarian.

Answered by: Catholic Answers Staff”


30 posted on 09/24/2013 3:15:19 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: Vigilanteman

***Calvinists are, as a rule, the nastiest people about trashing Mormons,***

Calvinists weren’t the ones who started that fight back in the 1830s. Joe Smith claimed to have seen God, Jesus, Angels, a gold book, and said if people didn’t believe him HE would stand in the doorway to Heaven and keep them out.

He threw down the gauntlet, other churches picked it up and have been kicking Mormons all over the place since.


35 posted on 09/24/2013 5:24:31 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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