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In Pope Francis’s apparent emphasis on individual conscience . . . toned-down morality, and Seamless Garment-style prioritizing of poverty, peace, and the environment, Kung and company see a pope with whom they can at long last “dialogue.”
1 posted on 09/20/2013 12:24:57 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler
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To: Jeff Chandler

Amazing because the conservative catholics say the same thing.


2 posted on 09/20/2013 12:27:53 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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Pope condemns abortion as product of ‘throwaway culture’: “In all its phases and at every age, human life is always sacred and always of quality. And not as a matter of faith, but of reason and science.”

In terms of homosexual ‘marriage’ ... "Let's not be naive, we're not talking about a simple political battle; it is a destructive pretension against the plan of God," wrote Cardinal Bergoglio in a letter sent to the monasteries of Buenos Aires. "We are not talking about a mere bill, but rather a machination of the Father of Lies that seeks to confuse and deceive the children of God."

The 'energy', 'joy' and 'liberal oneness' of Kung, Boff and Mahony is misguided and unfounded, methinks.

6 posted on 09/20/2013 12:38:01 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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“Don’t you feel the new energy, and being shared with one another?”

Oh, yeah...a priest of our Diocese (Scranton, PA.) was arrested today after being caught in the act by a campus cop having sex with a 15 year old boy. The boy was a hustler procured via Craig’s List.

new energy—shared with one another.


10 posted on 09/20/2013 1:03:00 PM PDT by miserare (Fire Eric Holder!)
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Sooner or later we're going to have a problem with Pope Francis. The only economy with which he has any experience is the Peronista version of Fascism that he lived under in Argentina. He has no idea of what a free market looks like, or how it works.

Is he the punishment for our sins, as many think Obama is the punishment for the sins of Americans?

13 posted on 09/20/2013 1:57:42 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon.)
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Hans Kung: “I was overwhelmed by joy”
The Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in the aforesaid document of 1975 refrained at the time from further action regarding the above-mentioned opinions of Professor Küng, presuming that he himself would abandon them. But since this presumption no longer exists, this sacred congregation by reason of its duty is constrained to declare that Professor Hans Küng, in his writings, has departed from the integral truth of Catholic faith, and therefore he can no longer be considered a Catholic theologian nor function as such in a teaching role.

Declaration regarding certain aspects of the theological doctrine of Professor Hans Küng – Christi Ecclesia

The rest are no better...

22 posted on 09/20/2013 5:14:22 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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One thing the American bishops have never done is go through the American political system, and delineate clearly: What are the responsibilities of: Legislators, governors, judges, and the President.

In Catholic moral teaching, it is the duty of the governors of all fifty states to NULLIFY edicts from the federal government to allow or finance abortion. Every Catholic governor who allowed the “legalization” of abortion by the Supreme Court should have been denied Communion, and possibly excommunicated. Every Catholic in a state legislature or in Congress who voted pro-abortion, even once, should have been denied Communion immediately, and possibly excommunicated.

After forty years, NO bishop has laid out, in an orderly and comprehensive way, just why the actions of pro-abortion governors and legislators are sinful, and what their duties are.

And then, of course, there are the pro-abortion bishops—Malone, Roach, Bernardin—mercifully all gone.


24 posted on 09/20/2013 6:33:49 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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LOL! Because that’s not what Pope Francis said.


25 posted on 09/20/2013 6:51:33 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Jeff Chandler

This is the most accurate description of this papacy, and what to expect. I have had this gnawing feeling reading all the blogs and columnists these weeks, but I couldn’t give words to my disquiet. The great George Neumayr has now done this for me.


27 posted on 09/20/2013 7:46:08 PM PDT by jobim (.)
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