Posted on 08/15/2013 10:59:07 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
On the question of whether priests should deny Communion to couples they know are living together be they as gay couples or cohabitating heterosexual couples Bishop Tobin said that question would be best left to the individual parish priests who know the individuals and who have counseled the couples about the churchs teaching. During his address Tuesday, Bishop Tobin said he felt he was out of his element speaking to a political group, but noted at the onset that he had had changed his political affiliation from Democrat to Republican, largely based on his dismay at the Democratic Partys support for abortion rights. At the same time, he urged those considering political careers to hold on to their moral convictions and not to base their votes solely on the latest polls....
....Asked why the church doesnt clamp down on Catholic politicians who help to enact laws that extend or expand abortion rights, the bishop said its hard to say to someone youre not a Catholic anymore except under certain conditions, and that frustrating as it may be to some in the pro-life movement, I dont have the canonical right to do that.
They just WILL NOT take to the pulpits and decree “You’re committing a SIN if you vote for that, or for any politician who is in favor of it!”
...According to the USCCB, the five most Catholic states, in population, are: Rhode Island, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York and Connecticut. According to the American Life League, the states with the most pro-life legislation (i.e., inhibiting abortion in various ways) are: Oklahoma, Louisiana, Pennsylvania, Arkansas and Texas. This is a shocker. In short, there is no Catholic political impact in support of life in those states reportedly having the most Catholics.
-- from the thread The Mythical Catholic Vote: The Harmful Consequences of Political Assimilation
“Bishop Tobin said that question would be best left to the individual parish priests who know the individuals and who have counseled the couples about the churchs teaching.”
No, it’s not Bishop Tobin. It’s your JOB!
there are 75 House members in RI. 65 DEM.
In most seats, the DEM primary determines the ultimate winner.
the average DEM primary has 1000 votes, so 500 votes gets u a house seat.
“On April 23, all 5 Republican state On April 23, all 5 Republican state senators announced their support for the legislationthe first time a party’s caucus in a state legislature has supported same-sex marriage unanimouslyand the Senate Judiciary Committee approved the legislation in a 7-4 vote while defeating a proposal to present the issue to voters as a referendum.[29] On April 24, the Rhode Island Senate passed an amended version of the bill by a 26-12 vote.”
Back in 2004 and 2005 I organized two separate marriage-as-God-defines-it rallies at the Rhode Isand state house. We had a lot of support from the evangelical community...about 400 people in attendance each time...but the Catholic churches didn’t lend their support at all. They didn’t want anything to do with it.
How many bishops, priests, and nuns vote democrat? I bet it is way more than 90%. I saw a Catholic voter guide last November. The only recommendation that stood out was to vote for candidates who favor minimum wage laws. All of the candidates who favor minimum wage laws also vote for unlimited abortions. Oh, and by the way, I have not heard much lately from their excellencies about fighting 0bamacare’s abortion provisions for Catholic institutions.
Last Fall my “individual parish Priests” were apparently afraid to cheese-off the large number of dues-paying Union Democrats who attend this church. Their response to Obama’s outrageous mandate was a brief announcement after Mass that “you can go to our parish website and access a link to a video with information about the election”.
I believe you; however, you would find that traditional Catholics parishes -- Latin Mass and old-fashioned morals -- are 100% supportive of what you are doing.
That’s because the Republicans have been infiltrated with moles. The party is completely whipped in this state. They can’t even get candidates to run in some districts because the Demo’s will just personally and professionally destroy them. The democratic party has taken over all the functions of the old organized crime networks.
Bump that!
i beleive that Sen. O’Neil from Lincoln, idependent, voted ‘no’. What is the deal with him? Howd he beat the majority leader?
“He said he believes that same-sex marriage passed in Rhode Island as a result of a tidal wave of support for gay marriage that came as a result of President Obamas evolving support for it and heavy lobbying by the entertainment and news media”.
100% correct. When you have an anti-Christian homosexual president agreeing with sodomite “marriage” it all flows down hill from there. Every left-wing flake in the country jumps on the bandwagon. And RINOs like Dick Cheney that have came out in support of pretend marriage.
The Northeast is flooded with Cafeteria Catholics who go to Mass maybe twice year. They are left-wing voters and no amount preaching will make them change their mind. Catholics who regularly attend Mass vote for the most conservative candidate. In this respect Catholics are no different than any other denomination. In otherwords there is no such thing as the Catholic vote.
Except that there is, it has gone democrat in every presidential election in our history, with 5 exceptions, and will probably always go democrat in the future. That is a predictable 'Catholic vote'.
The Bishop has no canonical powers to discipline people for public, unrepentant, serious sin, but the parish priest does?
He needs a serious sit-down with Card. Raymond Burke.
Like I said there is no such thing as the “Catholic vote”,
irregardless to what you think.
Even with the number of “catholics” voting for democrats, the number that vote for conservatives dwarf Southern Baptists are any other of the alphabet soup protestant denominations.
Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton twice, and Obamagabe twice, all so called protestant democrats, won because protestant voters voted for them. Protestants put them in the White House. There are more protestants than there are Catholics in the United States. If you capture the protestant vote you don’t win.
Thank you!
Hmmm, that almost sounds like anger.
I was merely pointing out the predictability of the “Catholic vote”. Not as predictable as the Protestant vote which has only gone democrat 3 times 1932, 1936, and 1964, but still predictable.
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