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If God created everything, then God created evil and Satan. Omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent - God created everything, and knows everything, everywhere and for all time, including the future. Per Genesis, God put Adam and Eve in the Garden with the one substance in the universe which would destroy them and the one entity (whom he created) bent on that happening. He did this knowing they would eat from the tree. That’s love? That’s the ideal of fatherhood?

There was no fall of man, it was a push.

It may be comforting for your soul to hold erroneous perspectives regarding the source of evil in the Universe, assigning that responsibility to God the Creator, but it is sad when some of us see such foolishness paraded as 'truth'.

The Creator created a Universe with inhabitants who have the right to choose between good and rejection of God. A significant number of angelic as well as human beings have chosen rejection of God. Blaming God for rejecting Him is silly at best, a cop out for immorality at worst.

I am certain that neither you nor I has a sufficient data base to be certain of anything as large as the way the Universe of multi-dimensional qualities works. Therefore all of us are operating on faith, faith placed in one perspective or another. Spitting in The Creator's face is a silly perspective to take, and may be the ultimate 'bummer'.

Hi all,

I understand and agree with what you say. I guess there is no answer to a hypothetical question about God. Or perhaps this is one He will have to answer for me once I see Him.

To me, it seems as if it could just as easily been the opposite. But evil has always existed as long as I have therefore I think it could have always existed and that is not the case.

Does any of that make sense? Trying to understand the mind of God with my human mind just gives rise to this type of musing.

Best to all,
jodyel

I do have to disagree with this, Jack. Might look that way from a human perspective, but that is where the “faith” MHGinTN spoke of comes into play.

At some point, we will just have to trust Him and realize we really don’t know it all yet.

Will we know everything once with Him in eternity? Does anyone want to take a stab at that? :)

That’s love? That’s the ideal of fatherhood?

There was no fall of man, it was a push.

You have not come back regarding your question ( if i believed i was created,) which i answered yes, but after thinking about it i realized we may not think so different.

Yes i believe an all knowing God would have known that the ones he created would do just what he told them not to do,

Any one who have ever had children is aware of this.

But they still had a choice, and after they took of the forbidden fruit they still had a choice because they knew good from evil.

Birds and most other animals gets pushed out of the nest and i think it was no different with man and woman.

Adam was pushed to leave his father and cling to his wife and they were pushed out of the garden of Eden, if not for the partaking of the forbidden fruit there may not have been any children, it may have been just Adam and Eve, i would not be here.

When i say we have a choice, i say it very softly because i did not come to believe in Jesus Christ by choice, in fact i fought it.

I do not take every thing i read in genius literal, i take it as an explanation just like you would explain some deep subject to a small child.

For instance ( where did i come from ) a stork brought you:

In my case they would have told me that i was hatched under a rock.

Ok, so i think i have been enlightened, but maybe in fact it would just be called stupidity, but where do i go from here?

I still believe God is the creator of the universe, i believe that Jesus is the son of God.