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To: Patriot Politics
I've always thought it was simpler than this.

An agnostic says, "I'm not at all sure about the God thing." -- I can understand that position.

An atheist says, "No way, no how. I am 100% certain that there is no God. It's true that I cannot prove a negative, and I have no real evidence of any kind -- but I know for a fact that God is a complete myth."

That's an expression of faith. It's pure emotion and nothing else. Every real atheist says that, and they all sound stupid when they say it.

5 posted on 07/28/2013 8:35:23 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Every real atheist says that, and they all sound stupid when they say it.

No, they don't. The atheist position is the one you describe as "agnostic". Talk to some real atheists, why don't you.

12 posted on 07/28/2013 9:03:24 PM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: ClearCase_guy
An atheist says, "No way, no how. I am 100% certain that there is no God. It's true that I cannot prove a negative, and I have no real evidence of any kind -- but I know for a fact that God is a complete myth."

That's an expression of faith. It's pure emotion and nothing else. Every real atheist says that, and they all sound stupid when they say it.

Some atheists say that, that's true...but there are also atheists who say, "I have no belief in the existence of any deities, but I do not explicitly assert that they do not exist." That is not an expression of faith, but rather an expression of a lack of it.

16 posted on 07/28/2013 9:31:56 PM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: ClearCase_guy

That’s interesting...perhaps this argument is not for atheists but instead agnostics? Because after all, they are the ones that try to refrain from any strong opinion one way or the other (as does weak atheism)

I suppose the motivation for such foolishness in usually otherwise sane people is to avoid accountability and engage in a sort of operational nihilism-hedonism where only one’s base urges and desires are met.

Thank you for the feedback!


31 posted on 07/29/2013 3:46:03 AM PDT by Patriot Politics
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