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To: af_vet_1981
Changing from Baptist to Presbyterian makes no sense and shows the fundamental flaw in Protestantism; it really is a continuous protest without apostolic succession.

How so?

What do the major historians of Protestantism say? Like almost all their colleagues, John Dillenberger and Claude Welch link the origin of the word Protestant to the ‘Protestation’ of the German evangelical estates in the second Diet of Speyer. But they see in that term “the duality of protest and affirmative witness.” That protest, they write, was
from the standpoint of affirmed faith. Few churches ever adopted the name “Protestant.” The most commonly adopted designations were rather “evangelical” and “reformed.” ... [W]hen the word Protestant came into currency in England (in Elizabethan times), its accepted significance was not “objection” but “avowal” or “witness” or “confession” (as the Latin protestari meant also “to profess”).
That meaning lasted for another century, say Dillenberger and Welch, and it referred to the Church of England’s
making its profession of the faith in the Thirty-nine Articles and the Book of Common Prayer. Only later did the word “protest” come to have a primarily negative significance, and the term “Protestant” come to refer to non-Roman churches in general.
-- from the thread History Lesson: Positively Protestant

278 posted on 04/23/2014 7:11:31 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy
How so?

They continually seek to reform, really reestablish, the Church of Christ (oops, cannot use that name, already taken, along with thousands of other names ... ) because their premise is that the LORD Jesus Christ did not build his church upon a rock that withstood the gates of hell in a public, powerful, and historical witness to the world. Every denominational split amongst mainline Protestants bears witness to nature of the movements. Do you really want to make the argument that your denomination is the holy catholic apostolic church founded on Messiah by the Apostles (and the rest are in some kind of error) ? Do you prefer to argue there is no holy catholic apostolic church in existence on this planet ? Or that diversity of doctrine is good because it let's freedom of the individual rule in a cafeteria style of live and let live prosperity (oops, that word is already claimed too) . The so-called Hebrew Roots Movement is another example. Do you want to argue all the Gentiles got it wrong until now ?

That is the fundamental problem.

279 posted on 04/24/2014 4:16:32 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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