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To: Zionist Conspirator

I know plenty of Karaite Jews that accept only Torah and Tanakh, and do not respect the tokanot and ma’asim of the rabbis.

The world is changing rather rapidly in this respect. Yehova is calling his remnant out of Israel.

As for the vowels, they are noted in a substantial portion of the masorite scriptures; its just certain words that have the vowel points omitted, and even those sometimes have the vowel points present.

One has to search to find them.

As for the differences in the interpretation of the role of Messiach, much of that is from a culture with a broken heart. Not that many ‘Christians’ have such a great understanding either. They want desperately for Messiach to have invented a new faith, rather than re-affirm the existing on as he did. They want victory over the Jews, rather than the grafting in that the NT really presents.

Its not our job to sort it out; Messiach will do that when he comes with his angels.


111 posted on 07/28/2013 6:13:08 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
I know plenty of Karaite Jews that accept only Torah and Tanakh, and do not respect the tokanot and ma’asim of the rabbis.

A heretical sect founded in medieval Egypt that resurrected the errors of the Tzadduqim. Although they do have the good sense to reject chrstianity.

The world is changing rather rapidly in this respect. Yehova is calling his remnant out of Israel.

Using Hebrew names cannot kosher a false religion.

As for the vowels, they are noted in a substantial portion of the masorite scriptures; its just certain words that have the vowel points omitted, and even those sometimes have the vowel points present.

The "masorite scriptures" are not the Torah written by G-d and dictated to Moses. This consists of nothing but consonants, without vowels or punctuation of any kind. The Massoretes merely created vowel points to indicate the correct vocalization handed on by Oral Tradition. Your pointed "masorite scriptures" are not the Written Torah but the Written Torah plus Tradition. If you want to see the pure Written Word of G-d look at a kosher Torah Scroll.

One has to search to find them.

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As for the differences in the interpretation of the role of Messiach, much of that is from a culture with a broken heart.

:Sigh: It's from a culture that is keeping the Torah as it was given to their ancestors. Whether or not one's heart is broken is irrelevant.

Not that many ‘Christians’ have such a great understanding either. They want desperately for Messiach to have invented a new faith, rather than re-affirm the existing on as he did. They want victory over the Jews, rather than the grafting in that the NT really presents.

I've heard it all before. I used to believe it. The Torah does not provide for nor allow for the possibility of a "gxd/man" who "dies for the sins of the world." This is from the imposition of alien concepts into the TaNa"KH and the Jewish religion.

Its not our job to sort it out; Messiach will do that when he comes with his angels.

He's not coming with angels. He's going to rise to power, become king, destroy `Amaleq, and build the Temple.

It is going to accomplish nothing arguing back and forth. In your mind the truth of J*sus is antecedent to the Torah. You cannot conceive of the Torah standing on its own. All you have ever known, and all you are capable of understanding, is a Torah that foreshadows and prepares for J*sus (chas vechalilah!). The fact is that in real life it is the Torah that is antecendent to J*sus and to everything else. It is the Torah that sits in judgment on Mashiach and not vice versa. Since in your mind J*sus is antecedent to every other truth, our arguments are simply going to accomplish nothing.

218 posted on 07/29/2013 8:50:23 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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