[cherry]

back to Mormon bashing....

these are frigtening times, with threats of dictatorship,the worship of evil, and the decimation of our families and our churchs...

there's less and less of "us" and more and more of them...the haters, the evil doers, the ones that embrace all sorts of idolatry and sin, and perversion...

and yet, we still love to bash in a whole community of people who have decent morals and believe in marriage, children, work ethic....

we need to band together, not slash at good people....we don't bash people who don't believe in ANY God, and certainly we don't bash Jewish people...why Mormons?....and Catholics get nearly the same treatmen...

[noprogs]

It could be due to opposition to top down, controlling cults.

[Puppage]

I couldn’t have said it better myself.

[kitkat]

My thoughts exactly. And why did they choose the NY Times to publish about it?

[greyfoxx39]

we don't bash people who don't believe in ANY God, and certainly we don't bash Jewish people...why Mormons?

Why mormons?....could it be that the mormon church sends 75,000 (soon to be over 100,000) missionaries out into the world to bash the faith of Christians every day, 24/7 and claim mormonism is the "one true church" and the only way to salvation is through arcane rituals in mormon temples???

The dozens of FReepers who post the truth of mormonism here can multitask. We can consider "threats of dictatorship,the worship of evil, and the decimation of our families and our churchs.." as you state and fight against the "decimation of our Christian churches" by these thousands and thousands of mormon missionaries while considering the other threats.

I suggest that you might try reading the information that you find on these threads before jumping in to accuse other FReepers of "bashing".

This article would be a good start in your studies.

Leave it alone, mormon style

[Tennessee Nana]

Mormons you are Trayvon...

[Vendome]

I don't know. 

 

Could it have anything to do with the following:

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http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/17#17

  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother,

“I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”

 

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Joseph Smith continues: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from

Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith-History 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).

 

 

Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?

 [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'.

When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'?

[Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).

 

 

Brigham Young stated this repeatedly:

"When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73);

"The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171);

"With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199);

"And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.24);

"Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).

 

 

Orson Pratt proclaimed:

"Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).

"This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses, vol.18, p.44),

"But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses, 18:172).

 

 

President John Taylor stated:

"Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.167);

"Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses, 10:127).

 

 

James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).

 

 

President Joseph Fielding Smith said:

"Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266).

"For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).

 

 

More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear:

"Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265);

"Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132);

"virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269);

"Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).

 

 

President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).

 

 

President Wilford Woodruff stated:

"the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p.196).

 

 

[Anti-Hillary]

Because false doctrine leads to eternity in hell. We point out lies because we are called to. Always should be done in love. You are “standing in the middle of the street with the bus heading straight for you”

[metmom]

back to Mormon bashing....

we need to band together, not slash at good people....we don't bash people who don't believe in ANY God, and certainly we don't bash Jewish people...why Mormons?....and Catholics get nearly the same treatmen...

Who is mocking or ridiculing Mormons?

I hear a lot about Mormon *bashing* but have yet to see mockery or derision against individual Mormons.

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

“we need to band together, not slash at good people....we don’t bash people who don’t believe in ANY God, and certainly we don’t bash Jewish people...why Mormons?....and Catholics get nearly the same treatmen...”

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Mormonism is a religious cult that damns its believers. It is not “good,” nor are any of its people actually “good,” as there is no righteousness outside of faith in Christ. The Jews who reject Jesus Christ as the Saviour are also in danger of eternal hell fire.

If defending the country requires legitimizing and ignoring the horrors of any false religion, apologizing and defending their religions which blaspheme the one true God, then defending the country isn’t worth it.

[Godzilla]

we need to band together, not slash at good people....we don't bash people who don't believe in ANY God, and certainly we don't bash Jewish people...why Mormons?....and Catholics get nearly the same treatmen...

“... all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ.... in large part the worship of apostate Christendom is performed in ignorance, as much so as was the worship of the Athenians who bowed the Unknown Gods.” - Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, pp. 269, 374-375

You were saying Cherry . . . . . . . .

[Elsie]

why Mormons?....

You REALLY don't know?

They are arrogant in their smugness; declaring themselves to be the only TRUE 'christians' and insulting every Christian who ever lived.

Is that enough?

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Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).

Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).

 

 

 

Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).

 

 

 

Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).

 

 

 

Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses

, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).

 

 

President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).

 

 

 

James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).

 

 

 

President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).

 

 

 

More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).

 

 

 

President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).

 

 

President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

[Elsie]

They are arrogant in their smugness...

 

MORMON

ATTITUDES OF SUPERIORITY

 

  1. I’m Superior; I have a special gift of the holy Ghost -- you don’t!
  2. I’m Superior; I have God’s true priesthood power -- you don’t!
  3. I’m Superior; I can go in God’s secret Temple -- you can’t!
  4. I’m Superior; I’ve been Endowed with special Gifts and Knowledge -- you’re just normal!
  5. I’m Superior; I’ll have my family with me in heaven -- you’ll be with strangers!
  6. I’m Superior; I’m becoming a God -- you aren’t!
  7. I’m Superior; My women know their place as servants of man and yours don’t.
  8. I’m Superior; YOUR creeds are wrong because they come from man - mine comes from God (you can find each one printed in our Scriptures).
  9. I’m Superior; I don’t HAVE a creed - I’ve got 13 Articles of Faith.
10. I'm Superior; I have 4 "Bibles"-- the standard works (5 if you count the JST) -- you've only got one: in as far as it is translated correctly.
11. I’m Superior; I can lie with impunity about such things as church membership, church growth, church doctrine, church history, church influence, etc. —                           -- You can’t.
12. I’m Superior; I am right (everybody knows) when I say 'evangelical' Christians are lunatics -- 

                           -- You’re a hideous narrow-minded bigot, who is persecuting me by practicing discrimination by saying I'm not a Christian.
13. I'm Superior; I have a testimony about a prophet -- you don't.
14. I'm Superior; I have a Scripture-producing Amos 3:7 prophet -- you don't
15. I’m Superior; I have a Living Prophet who talks to god every day -- you have a dim-witted hireling of Satan who only talks to himself.
16. I'm Superior; I have my calling & election made sure -- you don't.
17. I’m Superior; I have magic underwear to protect me from the bogey man -- you don’t.
18. I’m Superior; I have secret clasps and grips to give the angel so I get admitted to the celestial kingdom -- you don’t ;so you can’t.
19. I'm Superior; I know secret handshake codes for afterlife entrances-- you don't.
20. I’m Superior; I will see Joseph Smith setting on the right hand of GOD, when I get to Mormon heaven, and he will recognize me and judge me favorably                              -- You’re on your own; when you get to wherever you’re going!
21. I’m Superior; I’m going to hie to Kolob -- you’re going to who knows where.
22. I’m Superior; I get to have a harem and act like a celestial stud for time and all eternity -- you don’t.
23. I’m Superior; I have sun stones, moon stones, sky stones, cloud stones, Saturn stones, and the evil eye of Osirus guarding my temple

                            -- You have nothing but a stupid cross.
24. I’m Superior; My church has billions in assets stashed away -- yours has taken a stupid vow of poverty.
25. I'm Superior; Last - we have the power to keep a whole race out of our priesthood if we wanted to reinsert our 148-year legacy  (we ARE still keeping an entire GENDER at bay!)

26.  I'm superior; I have the "higher law" -- everyone else "lives under the "lesser law' because I say so...(over and over).

 

 

Revision 46.5

Semi-Official creed of the EXclusive club of Freeper Flying Inmans.

All rights liable to be abused.

[caww]

Cleary your comments indicate you have limited understanding of Mormonism, and for that matter likely as much concerning the Christian Faith. Otherwise you could not make such comments.

I do hear often, and understand, there is a large scale movement worldwide of ‘the crowd’ clamoring, “Let's all just get along”, it flies under the banner of the New Age Spirituality and comes in many shapes and sizes...basically one size fits all. There is no such thing...but people today are ripe for deception.

Mormonism is not a Religion, as it calls itself, it's a successful organization, much like Scientology and others like it who mask as one...and this to make merchandise of it's members....let alone keeping them in bondage to a false sense of security by being members of that organization.

It's deceptive, and it's tactics are clearly brainwashing and fully meet the requirements of a counterfeit Christianity....using just enough of “borrowed” terminology to make it “appear” Christian...when it is a huge deceptive program to put people in bondage....by doing so keeps them from the true Biblical Christ of Salvation.

[Colofornian]

there's less and less of "us" and more and more of them...and yet, we still love to bash in a whole community of people who have decent morals and believe in marriage, children, work ethic....

ALL: You know, Obama & his thugs overreach, thinking they can almost become "gods" of our lives...

Temple Mormons overreach, thinking they can become "gods" of their own worlds that they populate.

(Sounds to me like you have the "us" and "them" quite confused, especially considering that Romney was more liberal than JFK...and was "Obama lite" with his pro-abortion stances, his RomneyCare, etc.)

[svcw]

You don’t know anything about mormonISM do you?

[ejonesie22]

Mormons defile the very name and ministry of the most beloved Savior. You do not find the Jewish people calling themselves Christian whilst practicing the Jewish faith, you do not find them making up entire books of scripture out of whole cloth, full of lies and fantastic tales of nonexistent places and people.

This is what the LDS has done, stolen the Christian faith's message, rewritten it via the work of con men with fiction that changed the very nature of Christ himself and then proclaim themselves the “Restored” Christian faith.
In turn they send out thousands of very well trained “salesmen” in the guise of “missionaries” in hope of trapping the weakened souls into the cult.

Except for a few other cults that try and usurp the Christian faith, often with much less success, no other religious group does this, pretend to be anything other than what they are. Jews are Jews, Buddhist are Buddhist etc...

God never has, in the entire history of man, called a time out in the battle of the heavens simple because we could not get our act together down here. Indeed often it is turning our back on God more and more during our struggles on this earth that drives our secular world deeper into the abyss.

We must multitask, our enemies are many, here in this world, and beyond...

[MarkBsnr]

and certainly we don't bash Jewish people

The Jewish people were the first to hear God. They are the elder brethren of the Christians. They are the vine that Christians are grafted in on.

why Mormons?

Because Joseph Smith copied Mohammed in creating a new religion after convicted criminal Joe discovered magic mushrooms in upstate New York. There are a number of very instructive articles written about it. Modern forensic psychologists are getting very good at their trade.

[TheThirdRuffian]

“certainly we don’t bash Jewish people”

You’ve clearly missed every thread on FR where Israel or Jewish people are mentioned.

[ForAmerica]

back to Mormon bashing....

What did Joseph Smith say the "first principle of the gospel" was?