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White churches uncommonly quiet after Zimmerman verdict (You're not being sympathetic enough)
CNN ^ | July 20, 2013 | Jeffrey Weiss, special to CNN

Posted on 07/20/2013 5:14:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Even before the jury read their verdict acquitting George Zimmerman in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, a number of black religious leaders had responses at the ready.

The voices of white pastors and predominantly white churches and religious groups? Much harder to find.

Nearly a week later, some denominations that often weigh in on matters of national policy have yet to go on the public record. It's particularly notable in the leadership of the Catholic Church, the country's largest religious body.

Admittedly, the flood of responses from black religious leaders was a partly a function of where the TV cameras were pointed.

Familiar figures such as the Rev. Jesse Jackson hit Twitter moments after the verdict was released.

Less familiar figures, such as Pastor Michael McBride, head of the PICO Lifelines to Healing Campaign, immediately issued a call for peaceful demonstrations. McBride had also prepared a tool kit for "Hoodie Sundays" in honor of Martin before Saturday night's verdict.

The Rev. Raphael Warnock, senior pastor at the famed Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta, preached a sermon about Martin's death on Sunday.

Others took longer to react.....

(Excerpt) Read more at religion.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: blackkk; christians; florida; georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; whites; zimmerman
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1 posted on 07/20/2013 5:14:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Methinks CNN has a hard time understanding Christianity.,,


2 posted on 07/20/2013 5:17:59 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cracka churches conduct services in cursive.


3 posted on 07/20/2013 5:18:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Anything a white says will be racial anyway.


4 posted on 07/20/2013 5:21:33 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I would believe that the churches that actually use the Bible as the basis of their teaching are the ones that are silent on the matter.

These "black churches" are basically telling their "constituents" that the rule of law is what they say it is and not what is actually in our Constitution. They are anarchists pure and simple.

5 posted on 07/20/2013 5:21:47 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals crazy!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Note to radical, liberal, leftists, black activists: You are NOT going to cram your point of view down our throats. Not going to happen. Not at the point of the sword. Never. Get over it. Oh, and don't try to assault us or mug us. Live well and leave everyone else alone starting now.
6 posted on 07/20/2013 5:22:24 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

George Zimmerman is at least nominally Catholic, so I suspect if the Catholic Church is as tribal as the black community, they’d really rather that that church remain quiet about the matter.


7 posted on 07/20/2013 5:22:54 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: cripplecreek

... and it’s secret. They’re up to something. /s


8 posted on 07/20/2013 5:23:54 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

its almost hilarious that , mr weiss, doesn’t mention synagogues.


9 posted on 07/20/2013 5:24:37 PM PDT by willywill
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To: Charles Henrickson

Will you be having a “Justice for Tawana” moment tomorrow?


10 posted on 07/20/2013 5:26:01 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Beware Rip in the Space/Time Continuum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
National Council of Churches President Kathryn Lohre took a couple of days to release a statement about the “shocking impunity granted by a Florida jury to a man who stalked and killed a black child.”

I think I'm going to puke.

11 posted on 07/20/2013 5:26:38 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: darkwing104
Methinks CNN has a hard time understanding Christianity.,,

I always have believed that the "elite" media detests evangelicals and Catholics. Those two faiths put it right out there and "scold" the evil doers (especially Hollyweird sluts and such). Thus they become anathema to the "elite" media and movie-world.

I ALWAYS figure that whatever the "elite" media say and whatever Hollyweird does, I DON'T say or do...and that's they way it's always been. I get VERY uncomfortable when I hear some talking head say something Christian and/or conservative. Gives me the creeps. Lol.

12 posted on 07/20/2013 5:28:19 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

White churches have still not become mosques. Move, or we’ll *do* something.


13 posted on 07/20/2013 5:28:45 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of Muslim Brotherhood))
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To: Jeff Winston

Where, o where, is that WONderful vomit graphic? It’s a shame that NO graphics whatsoever are allowed. THAT one should be.


14 posted on 07/20/2013 5:29:57 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's particularly notable in the leadership of the Catholic Church, the country's largest religious body.

The Catholic Church strongly discourages homilies focused on politics or other current issues. Homilies must remain Christ focused.

If they had deviated, then it would have been notable.

15 posted on 07/20/2013 5:30:08 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

It appears that the corrupt mainstream media ignores “white” churches on all issues and then has the audacity to accuse such churches of not speaking up about Zimmerman verdict.


16 posted on 07/20/2013 5:32:50 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Vince Ferrer
...."The Catholic Church strongly discourages homilies focused on politics or other current issues."....

Doy you mean like Father Phlager?

17 posted on 07/20/2013 5:34:46 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As a “white” church member, I am deeply saddened by death, it is sad to see the effects of sin on all of creation. I am deeply sad for the 50 million babies aborted, not to mention the black on black crime that kills so many within the community, is life so cheap?


18 posted on 07/20/2013 5:36:47 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The answer is that most white churches aren’t run by highly politicized race-baiters and morons and paranoid schizophrenics.


19 posted on 07/20/2013 5:39:43 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Zimmerman did what he had to do to defend himself. Martin shouldn’t have assaulted him.


20 posted on 07/20/2013 5:40:37 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As a small town Mid-Western white male, every thing I do is racist. Heck, it's racist when I brush my teeth to keep them white.

It is time to embrace being an "authentic white racist". If I'm going to be called a racist I may as well enjoy the experience. --Just don't tell my adopted minority son...

21 posted on 07/20/2013 5:41:00 PM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Vince Ferrer

Even southern Baptist churches are cowardly on the race issue. The Southern Baptist Convention has had a black president for two terms now and dares not say anything negative about O’Bummer. Last year the convention publicly reprimanded Richard Land, a stalwart conservative leader on its staff, for saying politically incorrect things about the Trayvon Martin matter. Shameful.

See link below:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/02/us/baptists-rebuke-policy-chief-for-insensitive-comments.html?ref=southernbaptistconvention&_r=0


22 posted on 07/20/2013 5:42:51 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The implicit assumption of the CNN piece is that the verdict was unjust. Well, we followed the case, CNN, and the verdict was NOT unjust. Got it?


23 posted on 07/20/2013 5:43:22 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: heye2monn

That article makes my blood boil. He criticizes race-baiters for stirring up emotions and exploiting the case, and is condemned for stirring up emotions.


24 posted on 07/20/2013 5:45:37 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"uncommonly quiet"

Really? Do white churches typically comment on every criminal trial that comes along? No, they don't.
25 posted on 07/20/2013 5:50:15 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: heye2monn

The Southern Baptist Convention includes numerous predominately black churches. The trial was a civil matter, highly divisive the entire time. The correct outcome was reached from both a legal and a spiritual perspective, justice has been served as much as fallen mankind is capable. Therefore, silence upon the matter is the only appropriate course, particularly for the SBC.


26 posted on 07/20/2013 5:51:10 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hope the Catholic Church is smart enough to stay out of the Zimmerman trial.

Either way they lose.

Stick to the Faith and leave this mess alone.

Why step in dog crap when you see it laying there in front of you.


27 posted on 07/20/2013 5:53:50 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
Not true. Some douchebag from the disgusting Southern Baptist Convention already bashed Zimmerman...

Zimmerman was “wrong,” says Southern Baptist Convention official

Remember this same Convention is betraying all Americans by backing illegal alien amnesty...

Southern Baptist Richard Land Campaigns for Amnesty on Capitol Hill

28 posted on 07/20/2013 5:55:21 PM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: RegulatorCountry

You may be well-intended but you sound like a squishy liberal. As Christians we have an obligation to speak up about civil trials or “divisive” matters. Jesus was nothing if not divisive. We cannot stand idly by as sin is committed.


29 posted on 07/20/2013 5:55:55 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: heye2monn

The correct outcome was reached in the trial. What is it that you’d have a church do in addition? What church is behaving correctly in your estimation, regarding the matter?


30 posted on 07/20/2013 5:58:39 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Because racism is not Christian, and there is no St Travon in white guys bibles.


31 posted on 07/20/2013 6:02:05 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: montag813

[[[[Zimmerman was “wrong,” says Southern Baptist Convention official]]]]

Appalling. If we’ve lost the Southern Baptist Convention, what do we have left?


32 posted on 07/20/2013 6:02:47 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How would CNN know that churches are quiet about the matter, it is not like anyone at CNN actually go to church!


33 posted on 07/20/2013 6:06:32 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: heye2monn

What church are you advocating, that meets your demands as far as this matter is concerned, heye2monn?

All I can see in your responses is agitation, your own and an attempt to sow it elsewhere. Justice has been served, imperfectly as is the nature of fallen mankind.


34 posted on 07/20/2013 6:07:38 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The beauty of the First Amendment is that it allows us to ignore other’s absurd rantings.


35 posted on 07/20/2013 6:11:57 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post):)
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To: montag813
I might not agree with what Russell Moore from the SBC had to say about the verdict, calling my denomination vile names don't set well with me either. You could have made your point without lowering yourself to the level of the left.
36 posted on 07/20/2013 6:22:01 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

White churches, “Mommas don’t let your babies grow up to be thugs.”


37 posted on 07/20/2013 6:24:40 PM PDT by TheDon (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out.)
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To: Coldwater Creek
I might not agree with what Russell Moore from the SBC had to say about the verdict, calling my denomination vile names don't set well with me either. You could have made your point without lowering yourself to the level of the left.

I don't care about your sensibilities. This is your LEADERSHIP and they are traitors to America. What are you going to do about it? CHANGE them!

38 posted on 07/20/2013 6:27:37 PM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

White churches, black churches, big churches, small churches, all God’s children have churches. The only commentary I would want to hear from a church is that anyone can follow the teachings of Christ, regardless of skin tone, or which one of Noah’s sons they descend from. They might repeat Christ’s message to sell their cloaks and buy swords, because the outside world is getting to be a very dangerous place for white people, Christians or otherwise, but black Christians would also be wise to arm themselves as this leftnut, cultural war escalates.


39 posted on 07/20/2013 6:35:38 PM PDT by pallis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only issue in the “white” or inclusive churches is the Christian morality of self defense what with “turn the other cheek.” For the black churches the issue is supposed by the anti religious Left to be tribal rather than Christian or Biblical. In the tribal view, a black man was killed by a white man, circumstances are not relevant, and Vengeane is required. Liberals view black peole and to a lesser extent Spanish speaking people as necessarily tribal and thus needing the protection of the messianic Left to get along in a non tribal world.


40 posted on 07/20/2013 6:39:40 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only issue in the “white” or inclusive churches is the Christian morality of self defense what with “turn the other cheek.” For the black churches the issue is supposed by the anti religious Left to be tribal rather than Christian or Biblical. In the tribal view, a black man was killed by a white man, circumstances are not relevant, and Vengeance is required. Liberals view black peole and to a lesser extent Spanish speaking people as necessarily tribal and thus needing the protection of the messianic Left to get along in a non tribal world.


41 posted on 07/20/2013 6:39:52 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: RegulatorCountry

The Southern Baptist group is not allowed to speak up on the most controversial issue of the present time?

In fact, the Convention has already spoken up. It criticized the verdict of the Zimmerman trial. It spoke up and it was wrong. They are cowards.


42 posted on 07/20/2013 6:40:46 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: heye2monn

What church is it, again, that meets with your approval regarding this matter?

It’s honestly beginning to appear to me as if you’re merely seeking to disparage the single most politically conservative religious body in this country, for some odd reason.

What is your level of approval upon, oh I don’t know, the Roman Catholic Church as far as this is concerned, lol?


43 posted on 07/20/2013 7:05:37 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

BINGO!


44 posted on 07/20/2013 7:26:15 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (")
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To: Coldwater Creek

Thinking that “the entire Southern Baptist group” was somehow forbidden from on high was a bit of a giveaway, wasn’t it.


45 posted on 07/20/2013 7:30:13 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When something occurs that defies logic, like the gov’t’s pushing of this case, you have to wonder what agenda is pushing the non-logical actions.


46 posted on 07/20/2013 7:34:09 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ask me if I care......


47 posted on 07/20/2013 7:35:20 PM PDT by metmom (rFor freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well, the Black churches have been awfully silent about abortion, homosexuality, Communism, atheism, evolution, higher criticism, the moral sewer, the culture wars, the PLO, and their lxrd gxd and savior Obama running religious people out of the armed forces. None of this stuff has ever happened as far as the Black churches are concerned.

I'd say a little tit for tat constitutes "social justice."

48 posted on 07/20/2013 7:40:50 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (What would Yehoshu`a [Bin Nun] do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How ironic. After years of being told to stay out of politics under the threat of having your tax exempt status pulled, now they’re being criticized for......

Staying out of a secular mess.

People need to remember *Innocent until proved guilty*, and let it go.


49 posted on 07/20/2013 7:42:37 PM PDT by metmom (rFor freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My church is stone and wood tone, hardly “white”. :p


50 posted on 07/20/2013 8:27:52 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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