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Abp. Chaput: "The more secular we become, the less we care about the true, right and lasting."
Catholic World Report ^ | July 10, 2013 | Carl E. Olson

Posted on 07/10/2013 1:54:20 PM PDT by NYer

Archbishop Charles J. Chaput of Philadelphia is pictured following an interview in Rome in October 2012 (CNS photo).

First Things has posted an address, "Wisdom, Christian Witness, and the Year of Faith", given yesterday by Archbishop Charles J. Chaput at the National Shrine, Washington, D.C., as part of the National Shrine’s Year of Faith lecture series. It begins with a reflection on the 1800-year-old diary of a Roman emperor:

Marcus Aurelius held absolute power in a corrupt age. Yet despite that, he chose to seek what is true and right and lasting; and he disciplined his own life accordingly. In the context of his time, he was a just man and a moral ruler. He achieved that dignity of character by giving his heart first to the pursuit of wisdom, and only then to Rome. He had a brilliant mind, but he had no love of intellect purely for the sake of intellect. Rather, he had a special disgust for intelligence without moral purpose.

Abp. Chaput then goes on to make "three simple points:

Here’s my first point: The more secular we become, the less we care about the true, the right and the lasting. And here’s the reason: We don’t really believe they exist. Or we simply don’t care.

The word “philosophy” comes from the Greek words philia, which means love, and sophia, which means wisdom. In an earlier age, philosophy fed man’s nobility; it involved the love and pursuit of wisdom. Academic philosophy today is a shadow of its historic dignity in the Western tradition. It’s an ailing discipline because it has collapsed into either postmodern skepticism or materialistic scientism, and neither has any place for wisdom or love. The postmodern cynic rejects the search for higher, permanent truths about the human person as a kind of ideological power grab. And the materialist philosopher rejects the search because it demands going beyond what we can confirm in a laboratory.

As a result, our idea of “wisdom” has shriveled down to mean, at best, a kind of common sense based on experience; and at worst, a cheap and clever irony.

Real wisdom grows from the moral memory of a culture. The more we debunk and reinterpret the past according to some political or social scientific agenda, the less coherent our memory becomes, and the more irrelevant wisdom like the Bible seems. This results in a kind of rootlessness, a self-imposed amnesia, and it undermines our whole moral vocabulary. It also leads us to see and judge everything in terms of its utility, right here and right now. What’s useful and productive is judged good. What isn’t is judged bad.

Read the entire lecture at the First Things "On the Square" blog.


TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: relativism; secularism

1 posted on 07/10/2013 1:54:20 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
Pope Benedict XVI repeatedly warned about secularism.

In January 2012, Pope Benedict addressed U.S. bishops from Baltimore, Washington and the Archdiocese for the Military Services during their ad limina pilgrimage to Rome, telling them, "It is imperative that the entire Catholic community in the United States comes to realize the grave threats to the Church’s public moral witness presented by a radical secularism which finds increasing expression in the political and cultural spheres. The seriousness of these threats needs to be clearly appreciated at every level of ecclesial life. Of particular concern are certain attempts being made to limit that most cherished of American freedoms: the freedom of religion."
Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/site/article/pope-benedict-xvi-vs.-secularism/#ixzz2Yg71BOHR

2 posted on 07/10/2013 1:55:38 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: NYer
Real wisdom grows from the moral memory of a culture.

WRONG! REAL Wisdom comes from God but the CC is so secular/so worldly it makes them ignorant to the things of God.

1 Corinthians 2:13 - "Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual"

The word “philosophy” comes from the Greek words philia,..

Colossians 2:8 - "Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

The Vatican/RCC is so filled with error and their 'subjects' eat up their deception/teachings without a thought which has left them open for deception which leaves them void of TRUTH/God's Word/His WAY and ETERNAL LIFE.

3 posted on 07/10/2013 2:36:00 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name
From later in the lecture:

The Church also knows, with Sirach, that “to fear the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.” Why? Because God is the source and meaning of our lives, and humility in God’s presence, which is just another name for “fear of the Lord,” is the sign of a sane person—a person who understands the real nature of creation, and humanity’s holy place in it.

4 posted on 07/10/2013 2:47:46 PM PDT by Pyro7480 (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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The Vatican/RCC is so filled with error

That's a very powerful statement. By "error", I presume you are referring to church doctrine. For the benefit of visitors, it would be helpful if you could cite some of these errors, along with your justification for why they are wrong. Many thanks.

5 posted on 07/10/2013 3:12:34 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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“He was the last of the Five Good Emperors, and is also considered one of the most important Stoic philosophers.”

“Although, before becoming emperor, Marcus Aurelius followed the lenient line of the emperors Hadrian and Antoninus Pius, he is listed among the persecutors of Christians along with Nero, Domitian and Decius. Henry Wace attributes his severity as emperor to rivalry between the rising teachers of Christianity and the professors of the school of Stoicism to which the emperor belonged, to a personal bitterness to which he gave expression in his Meditations, and to the occurrence of natural calamities that the populace attributed to the anger of the gods against those who denied them and that the Christians saw as signs of the end of the world.[258”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Aurelius

“From its founding, Stoic doctrine was popular with a following in Greece and throughout the Roman Empire — including the Emperor Marcus Aurelius — until the closing of all philosophy schools in AD 529 by order of the Emperor Justinian I, who perceived their pagan character as being at odds with the Christian faith.”[3][4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoicism

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+1&version=NIV


6 posted on 07/10/2013 3:17:09 PM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: NYer

They have been cited for years. And I already debunked two of his statements - 2 isn’t enough for you where ONLY ONE SHOULD BE? It’s your problem so I would think so.

If teaching is defying God’s Word and it’s OK by you - why are you concerned about ‘visitors’? Check for errors before posting an article. But that would be hard for anyone who doesn’t hear and obey HIS WORD but ‘into’ a worldly secular organization that ‘acts’ religious with all it’s pomp while being nothing like JESUS and the apostles but more like the Roman army who crucified HIM and left Him on The Cross.

I can only warn you and give you some of my time - I can’t make you accept TRUTH as that has to come from you and a willing heart.


7 posted on 07/10/2013 3:34:26 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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God Bless Archbishop Chaput and his ministry to the truth.


8 posted on 07/10/2013 5:41:59 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: NYer

Thank-you for this wonderful posting.


9 posted on 07/10/2013 5:43:55 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: presently no screen name

How sad when Christians attack other Christians.


10 posted on 07/10/2013 5:47:51 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

You take telling the truth attacking? It’s no wonder so many of void of it, IT offends them. Paul experienced the same...”Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth?”


11 posted on 07/10/2013 6:13:57 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Biggirl
How sad when Christians attack other Christians.

God condemns those who hold to philosophy which is the wisdom of men...

You high-five those same condemned philosophers...

No one is attacking other Christians...The attack is against the false teaching of your religious leaders...

12 posted on 07/10/2013 8:01:24 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool

Wrong.

Your opinion not mine.

I am right and stand by it.


13 posted on 07/11/2013 2:25:42 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: presently no screen name

Your opinion.

God Bless Archbishop Chaput.


14 posted on 07/11/2013 2:27:03 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: All

These attacks from the “sola scripture” posters shows the ERRORS of it.

God Bless Archbishop Chaput.


15 posted on 07/11/2013 2:40:08 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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