Posted on 07/02/2013 9:01:34 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
The Supreme Court Justices recently made a decision that is squalid, shameful, sorry, shocking, and stupefying that will put perverts on a pedestal and decent Christians in prison! That decision will affect churches, schools, and businesses.
Does a Christian business person have the right to choose whom he will serve? Most sane people will agree that no one has absolute rights. In this matter, both the owner and customer have rights, but which right is superior? If we eliminate the possibility of the owner using tax dollars to start the business, it becomes a little less confusing, less contentious as well as less conflicting. It is also to be understood that a customer has the opportunity to do business elsewhere since there are similar businesses available. And it isnt a life and death matter.
The business owner takes a huge risk putting his own money into the business, working long hours, often without salary and the customer risks nothing. No one will argue that there are some legitimate restrictions: a bar does not have to serve a customer already drunk; nor will a store have to sell a butcher knife to a five-year-old who wanders in with a twenty-dollar bill. Alright, there are exceptions but what about homosexuals who want a Christian photographer to take pictures of their wedding or want a baker to make a cake for their wedding reception? That is a sticky wicket! There are similar cases on file of these conflicts; the most famous is the Christian couple in Oregon who got in legal trouble because they refused to bake a cake for two lesbians.
Customers discriminate (make choices) all the time so why not a business owner? The bakery sells to adulterers, homosexuals, tax cheats, etc., but will not bake a cake for a gay wedding. Obviously, they dont hate gays since they sell them birthday cakes but not wedding cakes. The bakery owners do not support same-sex marriage. That is their right and responsibility as Christians. What if a pedophile group wants a cake for their annual bash promoting sex with kids? Motto: Sex by eight or its too late. This is not about a cake but forcing a perverted agenda on others just as the Supreme Court did. I would bake homosexuals a birthday cake but not a wedding cake. I would sell a cake to an abortionist but not to celebrate his 10th anniversary as an abortionist.
What about a Jewish baker refusing to make a cake for a meeting of holocaust deniers? How about a black baker who refuses to bake a cake for the KKK? Can a Muslim business refuse to serve a Jew, or a Muslim caterer refuse to provide pork for a Christian organization? How about a gun-hating baker refusing to bake a cake for a gun manufacturers annual party? What about a gay architect refusing to draw plans for a pro-family group? What about a radical leftist printing firm refusing to print material for an outspoken conservative cause?
My religious views do not end when they conflict with another persons religious views. Of course, mine have priority! I can be flexible in some things but unbending in others. Only I can decide the difference. As an American, I can start a business and serve only people with red hair. Dumb but not wrong. Illegal but not immoral.
Homosexuals yell the loudest about freedom, tolerance, respect of others, yet they are the epitome of intolerance and hate when someone opposes them. The homosexual mafia, the attack dog of the LGBT lobby, demands tolerance and practices tyranny so how do you spell hypocrites: H o m o s e x u a l! A Christian couple refused to bake a cake because of religious beliefs and now they are picketed, persecuted, and could be prosecuted for their decision.
This comes from the 1964 Civil Rights Act that required a businessman to serve burgers to anyone. Any businessman whose business was started with any tax dollars is morally obligated to serve anyone; however, absent the tax support, a man could morally (but not legally) start a business and refuse to serve Blacks, Hispanics, Whites, Indians, and only serve bald dwarfs from Lithuania. He would not be in business long but that should be his right. The U.S. Congress overreached with the Civil Rights Act rightly giving legal rights to Blacks while wrongly removing basic business rights from Whites (maybe even bigoted, hateful, unreasonable rights). That part of the Act was troublesome, tragic and tyrannical.
I dont support businesses that actively support gay rights such as Pennys and Starbucks. When I think about buying a shirt at Pennys or stopping at Starbucks, I take a deep breath, count to 10, and then have a sandwich at Chick-fil-A.
That is not bigotry but Bible! Not prejudice but principle! And if the Supreme Justices dont like it, they can go jump in the lake.
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A business should be able to refuse service to anybody for any reason, including skin color, race, gender, national origin, sex, religion, creed, viewpoint, handicap condition, mental condition....
That’s the real problem, we have become a nation where federal law is used to make people be “nice”.
I don’t think anyone should be denied service based on race, etc., but I know it’s become a real problem that federal law is involved. In most places, local, state, and federal law all proscribe the same activity.
Everything does not need to be a “federal case”.
The 1950s and 1960s ended that, when the WWII generation came home and sent the paratroops into our towns to get America shaped to their new vision.
If the government can force a specific bean merchant to sell beans to red heads, and the government can force red heads to buy beans from some bean merchant, then I suppose the government can force red heads to buy beans from a specific blue haired bean merchant.
Unfortunately for freedom that ship sailed away fifty years ago to a fanfare of “civil rights legislation.” It isn’t coming back.
:: A business should be able to refuse service to anybody for any reason ::
Amd not be legally expected to provide that reason.
The supreme court has ruled that you do not have the right to refuse service to anyone, anymore. This is a ready made ambulance chaser ruling crafted solely to shake down anyone who may be slightly offended by your business practices. The lawyer-government complex is salivating at all of the perceived sleight lawsuits as we speak.
He has hit on something here. I propose that groups send forth “War Shoppers” whose assignment is to do some of the very things he wrote, get refused service upon religious reasons, and then sue citing the SCOTUS case described.
People are always asking, “What can one person do?” Here’s an answer - War Shopping. Go do unto them as they have done unto our Constitution and our civil rights and right of free association. “Freedom From Religion?” Fine. How about “Freedom From Overbearing Atheist Morons?” That works too, and SCOTUS has unwittingly given us the weapon.
Provoke an incident AND SUE THIER LIBBY BUTTS!
FIGHT BACK! DO NOT SUBMIT ANY LONGER!
W of B
The good doctor wrote:
What about a Jewish baker refusing to make a cake for a meeting of holocaust deniers? How about a black baker who refuses to bake a cake for the KKK? Can a Muslim business refuse to serve a Jew, or a Muslim caterer refuse to provide pork for a Christian organization? How about a gun-hating baker refusing to bake a cake for a gun manufacturers annual party? What about a gay architect refusing to draw plans for a pro-family group? What about a radical leftist printing firm refusing to print material for an outspoken conservative cause?
Can a liberal refuse to make a cup of coffee for a conservative businessman?
I listened to an atheist "public relations" troglodyte on Michael Medved's radio show yesterday.
He repeated the same mantra that is the God haters doctrine: "People can have freedom of religion, but they can't harm someone else through their beliefs. If their beliefs cause harm to gays or pro-choice citizens, that cannot be tolerated in this country."
For the clueless who have not been paying attention, that is the same arguement the IRS agents used when they were intimidating Chrisitan pastors and churches (some of it on audiotape).
If you choose to be on God's side, you are going to be persecuted in this country, and the persecution has only just begun.
Christians are a reminder to the Godless that they are on the side of evil. Evil cannot tolerate being exposed.
Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed.
John 3:20
**The Supreme Court Justices recently made a decision that is squalid, shameful, sorry, shocking, and stupefying that will put perverts on a pedestal and decent Christians in prison! That decision will affect churches, schools, and businesses.**
No mincing of words here!
Most certainly.
Things that should be tried and when found, sue the business like homos do. This would help set precedent and (hopefully) really confuse the libs. Hoist them on their own petard!
What's a petard, anyway???)
The homosexual crowd’s agenda has placed all Christians (not just businesses) in a difficult position.
Should be an illegal act, but liberals being as childish as they are (a requirement to believe all the crap they do), I would not let a liberal getting me a cup of coffee know I was a conservative. Who knows what they'd put in it.
I think Christians SHOULD take the homosexual’s money. Why not? It all spends. However, you can also put a sign on your door that says “10% of the proceeds of all sales goes to a Bible-believing Christian church.”
This is frequently applied to “No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service”
For the subject at hand, I would add;
“Incompatible Plumbing”
“I think Christians SHOULD take the homosexuals money. Why not? It all spends. However, you can also put a sign on your door that says 10% of the proceeds of all sales goes to a Bible-believing Christian church.”
Totally agree! As a businessman I wouldn’t hesitate to sell or buy from anyone. I’ll just put the money I make to good use.
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