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To: NYer
Pope John VIII whose chief aim during his pontificate was to defend the Roman state and the authority of the Holy See at Rome from the Saracens.

"Saracens." That is, Muslims. The period between the 8th and 9th centuries was characterized by waves of attacks on Europe by members of Mohammed's new delusional death cult, mostly Arabs from North Africa (although the ruling dynasties after the attacks were what would now be called Iraqis and Syrians). Spain fell, mostly because it was divided into tiny warring kingdoms - and didn't have anybody like John VIII!

3 posted on 06/29/2013 7:00:01 AM PDT by livius
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To: SunkenCiv

“There is a lot of really old stuff under the ground”...ping


4 posted on 06/29/2013 7:14:18 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: livius
Mohammed and Charlemagne Revisited -Emmet SScott
8 posted on 07/01/2013 12:27:26 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (Khach hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: livius

The Saracens never actually invaded Italy as they had Sicily. The sack of Rome was a raid and they never actually got inside the city walls. They did, however, look Old St. Peters.


9 posted on 07/01/2013 4:47:29 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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