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[These are] the number of Scouting units hosted by these particular religious groups....One thing is certain, given the realities shown in that chart. In keeping with trends in its own work, the Mormon leadership endorsed the policy of accepting openly gay Scouts, but no openly gay Scout leaders. The Mormon compromise was victorious....

....So what’s the big religion story in this? Essentially, the Mormons won the day. If anything, this vote represents another fascinating step in the ongoing journey of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints into the safe mushy middle of American religion, that great shopping mall of the soul. The BSA leaders decided to go with the Mormons, United Methodists and suburban American Catholics. The clear losers? The Southern Baptists and other traditionalist groups, including America’s few truly conservative Catholic parishes...

1 posted on 06/14/2013 5:14:16 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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The clear losers are the boys in Scouting and those that will not because of this decision and American Society in general, as it loses all of the fine future leaders that the BSA traditionally produce.

The homosexuals have achieved their goal, destroying another pillar of American morality.

One more step towards the total destruction of America.

2 posted on 06/14/2013 5:19:05 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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The United Methodist Church, as an entity, doesn't sponsor those Boy Scout troops (in general). Rather, a separate entity called United Methodist Men is the sponsor.

I suspect the other denominations actually operate the same way. This keeps the business of Scouting out of the control of the church board and the higher administrative levels of the United Methodist Church.

This is absolutely necessary in the UMC since a majority of their members probably don't share in all the UMC theological peculiarities.

3 posted on 06/14/2013 5:35:03 AM PDT by muawiyah (ui)
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I’ve not seen any publicity for alternative group(s) to the BSA yet, but it impresses me that, as organizations, they should be exclusive for their own protection. And this could be done in any number of ways.

To start with, “Orthodox” religious rules, which would mean embracing conservative religious standards more, standards shared by their leaders, who would in effect be “religious leaders”, and thus immune to current and future control efforts by government. (Based in recent court cases.)

All meetings would begin with a Christian prayer for Christian troops, and a Jewish prayer for Jewish groups. No Muslim or other religious or secular groups allowed. The prayer would be followed with the Pledge of Allegiance, and the recitation of a code of honor.

Each member should be able to recite all 10 amendments of the US Bill of Rights.

The primary emphasis should be on outdoorsmanship, the proper use of tools, basic machines, weapons, survival skills, animal and plant biology, first aid and medical skills, emergency preparedness and safety, ethics and morality, leadership, planning and the execution of plans.

In other words, think of it as a 100-year tune up for what the BSA originally was, dispensing with the nonsense, and embracing practical, almost paramilitary skills.

A parallel organization for girls should exist, but needs to have an even stricter moral base, though it is vital to both organizations that the scouts be taught of the essential importance of not having sex outside of marriage, as a way to avoid numerous disasters and even destruction.

(Look to black America for the result of sexual license. Most lead harsh lives and die young because they cannot keep it in their pants.)


14 posted on 06/14/2013 8:04:50 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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Almost a third of Boy Scout troops are associated with a non-religious organization.


15 posted on 06/14/2013 8:13:14 AM PDT by wideminded
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