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1 posted on 06/05/2013 12:08:35 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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When we ask for blessings to be bestowed only on “us,” we are in danger of seeing ourselves as set apart from the world.

James 1:27 — Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

29 posted on 06/05/2013 12:38:53 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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“Mainstream” (i.e., Big) religion continues to provide examples of why they have become irrelevant.


31 posted on 06/05/2013 12:42:25 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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But, in the 7th inning stretch, I bet he stands for “Take Me Out to the Ballgame.”


32 posted on 06/05/2013 12:45:44 PM PDT by DPMD
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Click here to listen to the very first performance of "God Bless America," sung by Katherine Smith, on November 10, 1938.
33 posted on 06/05/2013 12:46:08 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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I was a methodist until they became an evil church of satan. I AM NOW AND ALWAYS HAVE BEEN A CHRISTIAN! I will NEVER be a methodist again.

LLS


38 posted on 06/05/2013 1:21:55 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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When we ask for blessings to be bestowed only on “us,” we are in danger of seeing ourselves as set apart from the world. Faith is global, and one nation doesn’t get any more or less of God than any other.

The mistakes in this attitude are

1) belief that there is a lack of a standard to make an objective evaluation of cultures
2) acceptance of cultural relativism

How man succeeds in relation to the physical world provides an objective standard by which to judge the value of cultures.Man's survival, well being,and happiness, and life proper to a rational being depend on man's being able to gain and keep values such as knowledge and wealth.America is a culture where one is able to gain these real goods better than other cultures, and so deserves to be blessed by God.

41 posted on 06/05/2013 1:24:57 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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A Methodist minister doesn’t believe in God?

Or he thinks that we don’t have the right to express OUR belief in God?

He has a problem.


42 posted on 06/05/2013 1:26:15 PM PDT by kitkat (STORM THE HEAVENS WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY)
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You forgot the “douche-bag” alert.


45 posted on 06/05/2013 2:08:47 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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I’m not sure I understand Mr. Marsh here.

His Bible says that homosexuality is an abomination before God. It further says that marriage is between a man and a woman (Jesus said that, actually).

Yet, saying a public prayer all together at a ball game - that’s over the line.

What isn’t over the line, of course, is unprotected anal sex between two men. Smoking in the same ball park, that won’t work, however. Smoking is bad for you. Smoking a pole that’s been in some dude’s hole, well that’s just another version of normal.

I’m going to pay more for insurance if I smoke. My friend Biff, however, he’s a non-smoker, but he pulls the train down at The Lavender Fist every Friday night. He’s a vegan, you see, and he pays a lower rate.

Mr. Marsh is about the same speed as a lot of ELCA pastors I’ve run into. I don’t know a lot of Methodists.

Bible study is fun in the ELCA, if you know which aisles of the store to avoid. In my church, a Lot is what you are supposed to give to the collection plate, not the name of a guy who was willing to offer his daughters up to be gang raped in order to protect the angels in his home from a bunch of buggerers.


50 posted on 06/05/2013 3:31:11 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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Because I’m a minister, it might seem odd for me not to stand for “God Bless America,” too.

No, not odd. Not for his reasons (his verbiage is that of the theological liberal), but I find it entirely appropriate, especially for a servant of the word, to avoid mass displays of civil religion. Invoking God is serious business, and not to be done in a trifling way.

"I imagine that the God I believe in isn’t interested in dispensing special nationalistic blessings. "

Not now. The era of the Mosaic covenant and the ancient Israelite theocracy is definitively over. Contra the dispensationalists, it was typological and is now obsolete, and won't be coming back.

51 posted on 06/05/2013 4:41:51 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("You keep using that verse, but I do not think it means what you think it means." --I. Montoya)
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bunch of nonsense.

The guy is a psychologist who hasn’t worked as a minister for over ten years.

And my “progressive” friends are using this to demonize the Christian right, in the same way some Anti American Brits wrote similar tirades against the song after 911

What makes all of this ironic is that the song was written by Irving Berlin in 1917...he was a Jewish refugee from the anti Semetic pogroms of the czar....


52 posted on 06/05/2013 11:16:19 PM PDT by LadyDoc (T)
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