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Perspective: Why I sit out "God Bless America"
StAugustine.com ^ | 06/02/2013 | JAMES P. MARSH JR.

Posted on 06/05/2013 12:08:35 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 06/05/2013 12:08:35 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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See also here from the Washington Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/strike-god-bless-america-from-the-seventh-inning-stretch/2013/06/04/0e02187c-cb83-11e2-8573-3baeea6a2647_story.html

TTILE: Strike ‘God Bless America’ from the seventh-inning stretch


2 posted on 06/05/2013 12:10:07 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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See also here in USA TODAY:

Minister’s reason for sitting during ‘God Bless America’ at the ballpark

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/06/ministers-reason-for-sitting-during-god-bless-america-at-the-ballpark/


3 posted on 06/05/2013 12:11:07 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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I don’t mind standing, or singing either for that matter.

I wish God would Bless America, we need it now more than ever.


4 posted on 06/05/2013 12:12:15 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: SeekAndFind

Mr Marsh , sir you are an idiot.


5 posted on 06/05/2013 12:15:30 PM PDT by taillightchaser (I'm going to become a criminal so I can keep my guns.)
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I can’t tell if the guy has an actual point or not.


6 posted on 06/05/2013 12:16:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SeekAndFind

He sounds like an idiot.


7 posted on 06/05/2013 12:16:45 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Yo preach. The song doesn't ask for God's blessings at the expense of other nations....

Left the Methodist denomination 20 years ago and have not regretted that decision one bit.

8 posted on 06/05/2013 12:16:48 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: SeekAndFind; xzins
Asking for God’s blessing for “us” or “me” ignores greater needs in our world.

What a moron.

Jesus taught us to pray for God to "give US this day our daily bread." The song is an acknowledgment that our blessings come from God and if other nations want to get the blessings of God, they can change the lyrics to include their nations.

This kind of knee jerk globalist politically correct hogwash is ridiculous.

He could stand and sing "God Bless the Universe, the World that I Love" if he's so concerned about far away people that he refuses to pray for his neighbors.

9 posted on 06/05/2013 12:19:44 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Complete Fool


10 posted on 06/05/2013 12:20:15 PM PDT by onedoug
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No surprise he is a Methodist. I experimented with the Methodist Church for a couple years on my wife’s behalf but quickly left after discovering that not one I met will take a stand on anything. Back to a SBC church as fast I could.


11 posted on 06/05/2013 12:21:51 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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RE: I imagine that the God I believe in isn’t interested in dispensing special nationalistic blessings. (Or, perhaps more to the point, blessings for our bullpen, error-free fielding and sufficient run support.) When we ask for blessings to be bestowed only on “us,”

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ONLY? This man is delusional. No one is asking God to ONLY bless America to the exclusion of others.


12 posted on 06/05/2013 12:22:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Sometimes a song is just a song.


13 posted on 06/05/2013 12:23:03 PM PDT by Bratch
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The fallacy in his reasoning is his assumption that asking God’s blessing on America somehow excludes everyone else. This is a patriotic hymn, intended to envoke God’s blessing on our country. When one asks God’s blessing on a specific group, church or newborn baby, one does not exclude anyone else. This is a common liberal lie. Recognizing X DOES NOT exclude Y. To claim otherwise means everyone is just a part of the faceless masses...the foundation of liberal/progressive ideology.

I suspect this frock-disguised liberal has no problem asking God’s blessings on his parishoners, his own children and possibly grandchildren, certain friends in distress, and on and on and on. Belittling the invocation of God’s blessing on our country, and trying to excuse it with the lie that it excludes everyone else, is simply evidence that the reason he won’t envoke the blessing is because he doesn’t want it.

I don’t mean to imply that folks should be forced or shamed into standing - but his reasoning is invalid, which means he is hiding his true reasons.


14 posted on 06/05/2013 12:23:42 PM PDT by GilesB
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I have a problem with the title. It should be God Bless Vespucciland.


15 posted on 06/05/2013 12:23:57 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: SeekAndFind
If you don't like "God Bless America," you might prefer this Communist "patriotic" song, complete with the original Marxist-Leninist lyrics.

This Land--Woody Guthry (1951)

Bear in mind that the melody was stolen from a gospel song--which I much prefer over Guthrie's version:

The Fire Song--The Carter Family (1930)

16 posted on 06/05/2013 12:25:59 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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Look at me, look at me. I’m most righteous and perfect and ...


17 posted on 06/05/2013 12:27:38 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: P-Marlowe; SeekAndFind

Methodism has some real numbskulls in its ministerial class.

Maybe we should just wipe the slate and start all over again.

This guy acknowledges it’s a prayer for blessing, but he doesn’t want to stand because it might offend, make no difference, etc., etc.

I suppose he hasn’t really thought about the words. It’s a prayer that I can say Amen to.

BTW, I am a fully ordained for decades, practicing Methodist Minister.


18 posted on 06/05/2013 12:27:42 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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Kind of odd what a Methodist minister will take a “stand” on... The UMC is pro-homo marriage, pro-abortion, and pro-many other things that are against God’s Word. So why has he taken this “stand”?

Of course - I know of absolutely no reason to stand for “God Bless America”. The National Anthem, “The Star Spangled Banner”, should be respected by standing. But just because some drunk baseball fan thinks you should stand for God Bless America... no...


19 posted on 06/05/2013 12:30:13 PM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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no problem, with WashDC now attacking Christian (and Jewish) faith (”elections have consequences!”)... pretty soon this supposed minister of the gospel will be sent to the Peoples’ Re-Education Center... to learn some “socially useful trade” instead of spreading religious opiate to the masses.......... like, perhaps, “community organizing” for the local Communist Party cell boss.

and he won’t be allowed to sit through the Communist Internationale party song, he’ll be standing up and applauding (or else!)


20 posted on 06/05/2013 12:30:19 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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