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To: Timber Rattler; faithhopecharity
Here is the section from the Book of Order:

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G-4.0202     Decisions Concerning Property

The provisions of this Constitution prescribing the manner in which decisions are made, reviewed, 
and corrected within this church are applicable to all matters pertaining to property.

G-4.0203     Church Property Held in Trust

All property held by or for a congregation, a presbytery, a synod, the General Assembly, or the 
Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), whether legal title is lodged in a corporation, a trustee or 
trustees, or an unincorporated association, and whether the property is used in programs of a 
congregation or of a higher council or retained for the production of income, is held in trust 
nevertheless for the use and benefit of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.).

G-4.0204     Property Used Contrary to the Constitution

Whenever property of, or held for, a congregation of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) ceases to be 
used by that congregation as a congregation of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) in accordance with 
this Constitution, such property shall be held, used, applied, transferred, or sold as provided by 
the presbytery.

G-4.0205     Property of a Dissolved or Extinct Congregation

Whenever a congregation is formally dissolved by the presbytery, or has become extinct by reason 
of the dispersal of its members, the abandonment of its work, or other cause, such property as it 
may have shall be held, used, and applied for such uses, purposes, and trusts as the presbytery 
may direct, limit, and appoint, or such property may be sold or disposed of as the presbytery may 
direct, in conformity with the Constitution of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.).

G-4.0206     Selling, Encumbering, or Leasing Church Property

a.    Selling or Encumbering Congregational Property

A congregation shall not sell, mortgage, or otherwise encumber any of its real property and it 
shall not acquire real property subject to an encumbrance or condition without the written 
permission of the presbytery transmitted through the session of the congregation.

b.   Leasing Congregational Property

A congregation shall not lease its real property used for purposes of worship, or lease for more 
than five years any of its other real property, without the written permission of the presbytery 
transmitted through the session of the congregation.

G-4.0207     Property of Congregation in Schism

The relationship to the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) of a congregation can be severed only by 
constitutional action on the part of the presbytery (G-3.0303b). If there is a
schism within the membership of a congregation and the presbytery is unable to effect a 
reconciliation or a division into separate congregations within the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), 
the presbytery shall determine if one of the factions is entitled to the property because it is 
identified by the presbytery as the true church within the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.). This 
determination does not depend upon which faction received the majority vote within the congregation 
at the time of the schism.

G-4.0208      Exceptions

The provisions of this chapter shall apply to all congregations of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) 
except that any congregation which was not subject to a similar provision of the constitution of 
the church of which it was a part, prior to the reunion of the Presbyterian Church in the United 
States and The United Presbyterian Church in the United States of America to form the Presbyterian 
Church (U.S.A.), has been excused from that provision of this chapter if the congregation, within a 
period of eight years following the establishment of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), voted to 
be exempt from such provision in a regularly called meeting and thereafter notified the presbytery 
of which it was a constituent congregation of such vote. The congregation voting to be so exempt 
shall hold title to its property and exercise its privileges of incorporation and property 
ownership under the provisions of the Constitution to which it was subject immediately prior to 
the establishment of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.). This paragraph may not be amended (G-6.05).

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Note that the local congregation had to exclude itself from the 'trust' clause within eight years of the formation of the PC/USA. Also note that the PC/USA has set itself up as both the benefactor and the executor of the trust. This seems to be in conflict with most law concerning trusts, but to my knowledge, no one has attacked this from a legal angle.. (Just another thought to toss at some legal beagle... )

27 posted on 05/08/2013 3:10:30 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: NoCmpromiz; All
Thank you all very much for this wonderful information and advice. I spoke with my old pastor on the phone last night, and the situation is exactly as described in the posts above concerning other small churches.

My hometown church has already left PC(USA) and joined the Evangelical Presbyterian Church, and so now PC(USA) is turning loose its attack dogs and demanding a large cash payment, or else the keys to the church building and the pastor's manse. He's got some smart but inexperienced people helping him and there are going to be some negotiations since the congregation can hardly afford what PC (USA) wants, and so I have no idea how this is going to play out. I sent him everything that has been said here, along with the associated web links, and so we will be making a difference in this case.

My warmest thanks to everybody who responded on this thread!

29 posted on 05/09/2013 1:04:08 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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