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To: Turtlepower
"The key to the verses you quoted is to understand if Jesus was speaking figuratively or literally about bread and food."

That is why the entire Gospel must be harmonized. Taken in isolation the Gospel of John can be interpreted in several ways, but then the Institution of the Eucharist is addressed in the other Gospels and in the context of the Old Testament covenants, the meaning becomes clear. The Jews too had great difficulty with believing it.

Peace be with you

151 posted on 05/07/2013 8:49:08 AM PDT by Natural Law (Peace is not the absence of war, it is the completeness of communion with God.)
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To: Natural Law
...the meaning becomes clear.

Oh?

Then why are we discussing it?

158 posted on 05/07/2013 9:48:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Natural Law
...the meaning becomes clear.

Oh?

Then why are we discussing it?


The Jews too had great difficulty with believing it.

Probably stumbled over the Eye of newt, and ear of Bat.

159 posted on 05/07/2013 9:49:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Natural Law
That is why the entire Gospel must be harmonized. Taken in isolation the Gospel of John can be interpreted in several ways, but then the Institution of the Eucharist is addressed in the other Gospels and in the context of the Old Testament covenants, the meaning becomes clear. The Jews too had great difficulty with believing it

Absolutely not...It is impossible for anyone including any in your religion to harmonize the bible...

That's why your religion can't write a commentary on the bible...That's why you guys and your leaders have to avoid most of the scripture in conversations...That's why your religion took this verse out of the bible:

2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

The bible must be divided to understand it...

And unfortunately, it's not just the Catholics...

The Catholics and Pentecostals teach that you can lose your salvation...Many Protestants claim that no one can lose their salvation...BOTH are correct positions...But you can't figure it out unless you rightly divide the scriptures...

The Protestants can and do show you the verses which conclusively say you have eternal security and will not lose your salvation...You guys won't touch those verses because you can't deal with them...

And the Pentecostals can and do show where people in the scriptures can lose their salvation...But they like the Catholics get tripped up and fumble the ball when the scriptures say 'yes, some can lose their salvation, but they can't get it back'...No one likes those verses either...

You and your religion couldn't be more wrong by claiming the scriptures must be harmonized...Ignorance of the scriptures is not a virtue...

160 posted on 05/07/2013 9:49:45 AM PDT by Iscool
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