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To: count-your-change; metmom
Actually, I didn't go off track. Click on the thread I responded to.

But since you ask...

John 1:1 In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. New World Translation AKA the JW Bible.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. ESV (Considered to be a very literal English translation)

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (The New American Bible, Revised Edition, an approved catholic Bible)

Note in the JW bible the Word, aka Jesus, is identified as "a god." This is how they attempt to fracture the Trinity. The second and third Bibles, identical in content on this verse, shoe that Jesus is God.

108 posted on 04/26/2013 6:13:57 PM PDT by Gamecock ("Ultimately, Jesus died to save us from the wrath of God." —R.C. Sproul)
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To: Gamecock

“Note in the JW bible the Word, aka Jesus, is identified as “a god.”

As he is in Ben. Wilson’s Emphatic Diaglott and Robert Young’s Concise Critical Commentary, published in 1977 by Baker Book House.

I dare say neither was a JW.


109 posted on 04/26/2013 8:16:15 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: Gamecock; count-your-change
It is *the* not *a*.

Greek Interlinear

http://interlinearbible.org/john/1-1.htm

Strong's

http://biblos.com/john/1-1.htm

Problem is, the first commandment says.... Exodus 20:3 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. 3 “You shall have no other gods before me."

If Jesus is another god, then going through Jesus to get to the Father is putting another god before God, which immediately violates the first commandment.

There's also the need to explain away Jesus own words here in John 14:8-10 8 Philip said to him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” 9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but the Father who dwells in me does his works.

One comment about the Trinity, though. Anyone who claims to understand it is full of it. Our mortal, finite minds are not capable of comprehending the immortal and infinite.

112 posted on 04/26/2013 8:39:09 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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