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To: MarkBsnr

“St Paul only had hope; who are you to have such certainty?”


Saint Paul had assurance; who are you to go against the word of God?

Joh_6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

Rom 8:28-31 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. (29) For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. (30) Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. (31) What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

I’ll rest easy, knowing that my faith is counted for righteousness; that faith itself is the gift of God, revealed by His Spirit according to His grace and purpose determined before the foundation of the world.

“The Catholic Church began there, true.”


Indeed, too bad the Roman church isn’t the Catholic church. It just has Romanists in it, who don’t even hold the same beliefs as “Popes” like Gregory, or Bishops like Augustine, and many others, whom they claim as forebears.


73 posted on 04/13/2013 2:22:31 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

The Catholic Church began with Christ breathing on the Apostles and giving them the Holy Spirit and the ability to forgive sins. They were the first Bishops.......please read your Bible.


80 posted on 04/13/2013 2:39:00 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
“St Paul only had hope; who are you to have such certainty?”

Saint Paul had assurance; who are you to go against the word of God?

Me? Your verses refer to those whom God has chosen. It does not call out anyone in particular for certain. Paul speaks at great length throughout his Epistles about faith and hope.

1 Corinthians: 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known. 13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

No certainty there. Faith. Hope. Love. So I ask again, how does GPH have certainty, while calling on the name of Paul, yet Paul does not have certainty?

“The Catholic Church began there, true.”

Indeed, too bad the Roman church isn’t the Catholic church. It just has Romanists in it, who don’t even hold the same beliefs as “Popes” like Gregory, or Bishops like Augustine, and many others, whom they claim as forebears.

Piffle. Those who talk about the "Roman" church or "Romanists" and so on say a lot of mush like this that really doesn't mean anything. Augustine contributed much, but at one point in his life, he drifted into heresy. I don't hold those heretical beliefs, if that's what you mean.

And to which Gregory (Gregorius) are you referring? There were 16. If you are referring to Gregory the Great, are you alluding to the creation of the Pre Tridentine Mass? If so, does that mean that with my fondness of the Tridentine Mass, you would claim that I don't hold the same beliefs as him?

116 posted on 04/14/2013 4:39:00 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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