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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
All Christians are actually on a superior level than Pope Francis. He’s still stuck on preaching a Gospel wherein man is told about what he must do for God, and where man venerates dead saints and Mary for their salvation instead of to God who gives the Holy Spirit freely to all those who ask; it is nothing more than idolatry and dead tradition . The real Gospel is about what God has done for us, by whose grace and works we produce fruit for His Holy purpose.

It's fascinating watching those who claim that their pocket version of Christianity (varying as the days wax and wane) is superior to those to whom Christ entrusted His Church. The Church was begun by Christ. Where was your church begun? After a long and significant look in the mirror?

If you would, examine the Nicene Creed and the Apostle's Creed. If you get brave, examine the Athenasian Creed, which is the most definitive of all Christian creeds. Note the term 'communion of saints' and then think on your statement. Also think on your statement regarding the Gospel.

64 posted on 04/13/2013 1:26:20 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr

“It’s fascinating watching those who claim that their pocket version of Christianity (varying as the days wax and wane) is superior to those to whom Christ entrusted His Church.”


If you mean my Bible, it is too big for my pocket. But, I’ll glorify God, who chose me while I was yet a sinner:

2Ti_1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

1Pe 2:9-10 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: (10) Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

Rev 1:5-6 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, (6) And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

“Where was your church begun?”


On a hill where Christ and two thieves were crucified.

“If you would, examine the Nicene Creed and the Apostle’s Creed. If you get brave, examine the Athenasian Creed,”


After a long hard look in the mirror, you should examine the scripture as we are commanded.


67 posted on 04/13/2013 1:45:16 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: MarkBsnr

MarkBsnr,
Hey friend! Great to see you again. I miss not seeing your posts. Sometimes FR is a bigger place than we realize.

We do disagree at times, but I consider you a friend and a brother.

Here’s an example of one of those areas, where I think the position is not a good argument ...

“It’s fascinating watching those who claim that their pocket version of Christianity (varying as the days wax and wane) is superior to those to whom Christ entrusted His Church. The Church was begun by Christ. Where was your church begun? After a long and significant look in the mirror?”

God has no grandchildren. Only children. Every true believer is related directly to Him. Baptized by the Spirit into His Body, included as part of His Bride, included in the universal communion of the saints, immediately.

The believer who comes to Christ in a jungle or desert, who comes to entrust himself to Christ for salvation today, is part of His Church, though he is the first generation. Every true believer is the first generation. Where two or more are gathered for prayer and worship, His Body, His Bride, His Church is there. As such it ALL begins with HIM. It ALL ends with HIM. It’s ALL for His glory. EVERY church that is comprised of true believers was begins at the same time in history - directly attached to HIM.

Having said all that, it is great to see you :-)


75 posted on 04/13/2013 2:24:38 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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