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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
You cherry-pick from the Fathers like an expert!

The same Augustine whom you would like to pretend rejected devotion to Mary wrote the following prayer:

Blessed Virgin Mary, who can worthily repay you with praise and thanks for having rescued a fallen world by your generous consent! Receive our gratitude, and by your prayers obtain the pardon of our sins. Take our prayers into the sanctuary of heaven and enable them to make our peace with God. Holy Mary, help the miserable, strengthen the discouraged, comfort the sorrowful, pray for your people, plead for the clergy, intercede for all women consecrated to God. May all who venerate you feel now your help and protection. Be ready to help us when we pray, and bring back to us the answers to our prayers. Make it your continual concern to pray for the people of God, for you were blessed by God and were made worthy to bear the Redeemer of the world, who lives and reigns forever. Amen

20 posted on 04/12/2013 9:39:07 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Campion
you would like to pretend

Attributing motive to another Freeper is a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

21 posted on 04/12/2013 9:44:07 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Campion

LOL

Augustine didn’t write it:

“Written by Bishop Fulbert of Chartres (ca 951-ca 1029), it appears in his Sermo IX, De Annuntiatione Dominica. The prayer is sometimes attributed to St. Augustine, Book 10, Sermon 18, de Sanctis, since Bishop Fulbert’s sermon appeared in the collected works of St. Augustine at one time. However, it is now known that the sermon is not Augustine’s, but Bishop Fulbert’s.”

http://www.preces-latinae.org/thesaurus/BVM/OBeataVM.html

Boom Shakalaka


27 posted on 04/12/2013 10:30:04 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Campion
From St. Augustine
29 posted on 04/12/2013 10:47:20 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Campion; wonkowasright
The same Augustine whom you would like to pretend rejected devotion to Mary wrote the following prayer:

Blessed Virgin Mary, who can worthily repay you with praise and thanks for having rescued a fallen world by your generous consent! Receive our gratitude, and by your prayers obtain the pardon of our sins. Take our prayers into the sanctuary of heaven and enable them to make our peace with God. Holy Mary, help the miserable, strengthen the discouraged, comfort the sorrowful, pray for your people, plead for the clergy, intercede for all women consecrated to God. May all who venerate you feel now your help and protection. Be ready to help us when we pray, and bring back to us the answers to our prayers. Make it your continual concern to pray for the people of God, for you were blessed by God and were made worthy to bear the Redeemer of the world, who lives and reigns forever. Amen

“Wherefore when the Lord appeared wonderful in the midst of the crowd, working signs and wonders, and showing what was hidden in the flesh, certain persons admiring, said, Blessed is the womb that bare thee. But he answered, Verily blessed are they who hear the word of God and keep it. That is to say, My mother, whom thou hast called blessed, is thence blessed because she keeps the word of God, not because the Word was made flesh within her.”
— Tenth treatise on the second chap of John’s Gospel

Quite a contradiction in thought there...How do you account for that???

38 posted on 04/12/2013 11:19:05 PM PDT by Iscool
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