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To: aMorePerfectUnion
MarkBsnr, The seal in verse 13 is identified as downpayment from God in verse 14, to us, by means of the Spirit, that guarantees there is more to come. It is no idle mark. We are “sealed to the day of salvation” - thankfully!

God is faithful to us; it is we men that may be unfaithful to God. Remember that even St Paul was concerned about losing his salvation.

Not sealed because of anything we have done, but because HE has paid the penalty for each and every sin for us. It is based entirely on His righteousness and not our own. I am betting His blood is sufficient payment, His righteousness will not fail. If His sinless life sacrificed through shed blood, death and His resurrection are not sufficient, there is no hope for anyone.

Agreed with the caveat that it is possible to lose one's salvation by rejecting God.

190 posted on 04/15/2013 10:18:11 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
"God is faithful to us; it is we men that may be unfaithful to God. Remember that even St Paul was concerned about losing his salvation."

No, br'er, he was not. Please read on.

If you have been placed by God into the Body of Christ at salvation, your sins were forgiven, past, present and future - including the worst of the worst.

"We must be careful not to confuse the fear of disqualification with the fear of damnation. Paul had no fear that he would lose his salvation (Rom. 8:29–39). In the context what he could lose was a reward.

How ironic and pathetic it would be for Paul to forfeit a crown through his own lack of self-discipline or by breaking the Judge’s rules since He had instructed others concerning how to win one."

Constable, T. (2003). Tom Constable’s Expository Notes on the Bible (1 Co 9:27)

Romans 8:29-39

New American Standard Bible (NASB)

29 For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; 30 and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.

31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? 32 He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things? 33 Who will bring a charge against God’s elect? God is the one who justifies; 34 who is the one who condemns? Christ Jesus is He who died, yes, rather who was [a]raised, who is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us. 35 Who will separate us from the love of [b]Christ? Will tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36 Just as it is written,

For Your sake we are being put to death all day long;
We were considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”

37 But in all these things we overwhelmingly conquer through Him who loved us. 38 For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, 39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.


206 posted on 04/15/2013 2:15:03 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: MarkBsnr

MarkBsnr,
Even though I haven’t seen you in a while and always enjoy a beer and great conversation with you, I’m going to withdraw from this discussion. You have your hands full with other conversations here that are oppositional.

I will catch up with you again, no doubt.

blessings.


207 posted on 04/15/2013 2:17:08 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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