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To: NYer
File this under "locking the barn door after the horse has run away..." but if the Catholic Church had dealt with the rampant PEDOPHILES who called themselves priests for the last HALF CENTURY OR MORE......

We might not be having this discussion.

I'm not even Catholic, but the thought of walking into one of their churches gives me the creeps.

7 posted on 04/08/2013 5:35:43 AM PDT by Jerrybob (Truth -- the new hate speech.)
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To: Jerrybob

but if the Catholic Church had dealt with the rampant PEDOPHILES who called themselves priests for the last HALF CENTURY OR MORE......

...now that you’re finished shouting, care to pass along a couple of facts and figures...like exactly how many priests out of the entire population of clergy were ‘rampant pedophiles’...I mean, seeing as how loud you’re being, I’d figure you have all the facts right at the tips of your little fingers...I’ll wait patiently for your informative answer...

but the thought of walking into one of their churches gives me the creeps.

...but you’d not feel creepy walking into a Protestant Church, or a public school, where documented abuse cases equalling or surpassing the Catholic scandal exist...


12 posted on 04/08/2013 5:45:20 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Jerrybob; IrishBrigade
I'm not even Catholic, but the thought of walking into one of their churches gives me the creeps.

You have fallen prey to the mainstream media's serial attack on the Catholic Church. We have implemented policies to prevent any further incidences. This includes mandating that any priest, religious or lay individual who work with children, undergo a police background check, be finger printed and attend a Virtus training program. What has your particular church done to protect its children from these predators?

Sexual Abuse of Children by Protestant Ministers

And, while we're on the topic, one needs to safeguard their children from sexual abuse by - teachers, camp counselors, troop leaders, sports coaches, et al. Even the BSA has several sex abuse cases pending. How ironic that the BSA is under attack for not allowing gays. Do schools, camps, or any other organization require their staff / volunteers be fingerprinted?

The one place you are safe is in a Catholic Church. But you go ahead and listen to the msm. They won't mislead you ; - )

14 posted on 04/08/2013 6:08:52 AM PDT by NYer (Beware the man of a single book - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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To: Jerrybob

I am catholic, I am not a pedophile. My husband is catholic he is not a pedophile. Neither are our priests at our parish. The best way to evangelize as Catholics is to follow the example of Jesus.

Jesus developed relationships with people. He talked to all people and offered love, understanding and forgiveness. If we develop meaningful friendships with the people we meet in our daily travels then a discussion of our faith will meaningfully develop over time out of natural curiosity. Helping people discover Christ isn’t a fifteen minute conversation, it is an ongoing part of all our relationships. It is living by example.

Get off the sofa, get out of the house, go meet people and for goodness sake turn off your gadgets ( the world won’t end really) and let the Holy Spirit be your guide.


21 posted on 04/08/2013 6:26:12 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Jerrybob

Why? The seminaries have been cleaned up. We are getting straight and orthodox believing bishops. At my church we had six people baptized and eight come into full Communion with the Church at the Easter Vigil.

Aren’t you aware of what Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI put in place visiting commissions to clean up the seminaries? It’s even happening with the nuns and their convents as I write.

Catholic seminaries are bulging and bursting with straight young men who want to serve the Lord. Each year’s group of ordinands (those to be ordained) gets larger and larger.

When my priest was ordained — there were only two priests ordained that year. For the last several years our archdiocese has had eight or nine priests ordained. Even a couple older men from the Anglican Church have become Catholic priests.

Nothing to get the willies about at all. Do you want to see all the links that prove my point?


39 posted on 04/08/2013 8:31:38 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Jerrybob
FWIW, according to Newsweek,
The only hard data that has been made public by any denomination comes from John Jay College's study of Catholic priests, which was authorized and is being paid for by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops following the public outcry over the 2002 scandals. Limiting their study to plausible accusations made between 1950 and 1992, John Jay researchers reported that about 4 percent of the 110,000 priests active during those years had been accused of sexual misconduct involving children. Specifically, 4,392 complaints (ranging from "sexual talk" to rape) were made against priests by 10,667 victims. (Reports made after 2002, including those of incidents that occurred years earlier, are released as part of the church's annual audits.)

Experts disagree on the rate of sexual abuse among the general American male population, but Allen says a conservative estimate is one in 10. Margaret Leland Smith, a researcher at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice, says her review of the numbers indicates it's closer to one in 5. But in either case, the rate of abuse by Catholic priests is not higher than these national estimates. The public also doesn't realize how "profoundly prevalent" child sexual abuse is, adds Smith. Even those numbers may be low; research suggests that only a third of abuse cases are ever reported (making it the most underreported crime). "However you slice it, it's a very common experience," Smith says.


46 posted on 04/08/2013 10:30:58 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Jerrybob
I'm not even Catholic, but the thought of walking into one of their churches gives me the creeps.

Contrary to popular opinion, the numbers of priests involved in any abuse at all is very small. MOST priests are faithful servants of God, and have been burdened by the negative press created by those very few who acted in such a sinful manner. It's highly unlikely you'd encounter such a priest at most parishes, and if you see families with children, actively involved, it's almost a certainly NONE of the priests in that parish are hinky.

Many years ago, parents didn't pay attention, because they trusted priests unquestioningly. That isn't the way, anymore, so if families are comfortable, you should be, as well.

53 posted on 04/09/2013 6:51:39 PM PDT by SuziQ
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