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To: American Constitutionalist

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The word FOREKNOW ?

It has nothing to do with God knowing those who would get saved, and not saved.
How can God ? see down the tunnel of time ?]]

If God can’t see donw the tunel of time, then He could not have phophesied throuigh the prophets, nor directly foretold what was goign to happen to Israel-

[[Predestination means God before anything was created, time was created, before the earth was created God chose those who would be saved in Christ,]]

It can’t mean that- IF it means that hten ‘free will’ is a fake term- there is no such thign as free will- We know however by experience nd by Godf’s word that free will deoes exist- it HAS to exist otherwise therir coudl be no such thign as love- you can’t love soemthign you are forced to accept- if however you have a free will chocie to love or hate soemthign, you CHOOSE FREELY to do one or the other— just as a man CHOOSES to love a woman- IF he were forced to love her- it woudl be nothign more than an empty predestiend ritual devoid of choice and love- It’s the same with good and evil- if we are simply chosen to do evil or good- their is NO choice- the choice has already been made for us- and one can NOT be truly good by choice of their own- so really, evil wouldn’t even be needed- When a person CHOOSES to turn from evil to God, that person is FREELY CHOOSING to love God and to no logner be at enmity with Him— That is TRUE love- not soem forced empty love-


194 posted on 04/09/2013 9:36:55 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop
Yes, of course we still have a free will, but, it's still not free.

The free will that mankind enjoyed was untainted, uncorrupted before the fall.

Many think that man still has a " free will " but, he does not, anymore since the fall.

Those who are unsaved are under the bondage and control of the prince of the air, the ruler of darkness, the god of this world.

Even Jesus said, that a man can't serve 2 masters.
People are either serving God ? or this world, and the prince, or god who controls this world.

Free will in it's true and purest form was truly free will before the fall.

Yes, people still have that free will to chose, but, it's under the influence of another.

Either people are influenced by the holy spirit, or the prince of the air, the god of this world.

The free will that mankind has today is corrupted, and tainted.
205 posted on 04/09/2013 1:02:39 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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