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To: CottShop

Some NDE have included memories of rising up above the body, through suspended acoustical ceilings, and observing manufacturer’s serial numbers on light fixtures above the ceiling, which upon waking, were investigated and verified as the same numbers, which none of those involved were cognizant they even existing before the NDE.

Others are similar to dreams which are vivid, including vibrations, color, sounds, smells, touch, and taste, which were not present in their physical environment.

Many of these might be better confined to soulish operations vice spiritual operations.

Spiritual perceptions also influence the soul, but vary dependent upon the spiritual gift given to each believer, which may be quite distinctive from other believers’ spiritual gifts.

Such experiences are reported as indeed being very real, just as real as any other perception, but also involving other persons.

I would recommend keeping it simple.

If there were details in your dream/experience not previously known to you, they likely were introduced by a second person. That person may have been an angel, elect of fallen is unknown. Even familiar spirits are discouraged from entering our influence, so it is wise to test the spirits.


183 posted on 04/08/2013 11:39:38 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

[[which none of those involved were cognizant they even existing before the NDE.]]

How do we know that theu were not observed by the patient subconsciously? Via reflection? There’s no way to verify the patient didn’;t infact glimpse the number via mirror, or reflective surface, and simpyl ‘dre4am’ with htat number popping up-

[[Others are similar to dreams which are vivid, including vibrations, color, sounds, smells, touch, and taste, which were not present in their physical environment.]

All of which can’t be verified scientifically- we simpyl have to take hteir word for it- just liek hte ‘ghost hunters’ which ‘feel liek htey were touched’ or who ‘smell soemthign funky’ we the auedience can’t actually verify their ‘evidence’

[[If there were details in your dream/experience not previously known to you, they likely were introduced by a second person.]]

That’s the rub- all of it was ‘previosuly known by me’ as beign a realit6y of hell (the torture/suffocation torment etc) the physical torment- and I’d read and seen many depictiosn of hell via artist’s depictions- and I simpyl beleive these previous familiarities with hte writings and paintings etc

I’ll admit hte numers on the light fixtures IS a tough one to explain- although it is not outside the realm of possibility that it actually was seen and stored i nte subconscious


193 posted on 04/09/2013 9:27:55 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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