.... Same for giving and taking life....it's truly not as difficult as you seem to be making it... But in doing so you're making Jesus’s ‘sacrificial offering of His life for ours something that it wasn't...and it wasn't a suicide.
I'll stick with the written record just as it is without trying to twist it to fit something else.
Thank you for the discussion.
Nope; you're redefining 'suicide' to suit your own ideas.
Further, not only are you are utterly unwilling to indulge in other [correct/dictionary] definitions, but you fail to respond to the arguments made using your own definition.
This all indicates to me that, like the 'liberal'/'progressive' you are trying to alter the language to suit your own ends.
.... Same for giving and taking life....
Who said anything about giving life? I didn't, did I?
it's truly not as difficult as you seem to be making it... But in doing so you're making Jesus’s ‘sacrificial offering of His life for ours something that it wasn't...and it wasn't a suicide.
That is only due to your rejection of the dictionary definition, which I have indulged but not accepted. -- I'm not "making it difficult", I'm rejecting your definition precisely because you have made no argument for it being a better definition, but mere assertations.
I'll stick with the written record just as it is without trying to twist it to fit something else.
Written record? And you reject the dictionary-definition as well as Jesus's own admission that he "lays down his life" of his own will?
That's rather amusing. (BTW, dictionary suicide doesn't say anything about the one ending their life being able [or unable] to take it back.)
Thank you for the discussion.
Thank you, too.