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To: plain talk

It is not my statement that “few will go to heaven,” it is Christ himself that said that fact. Most of us are going to hell then shall be destroyed(The Second Death) irrespective of ones “deep convictions” and “true beliefs.” It appears that the predestianarians have the day. Most of us were chosen for Hell long before we were even born.


160 posted on 04/07/2013 9:17:42 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

[[Most of us were chosen for Hell long before we were even born.]]

‘CHOSEN’? Or is it that God knew we woudl NEVER choose Him, and it was ‘AFOREKNOWN that we woudl end up in hell?

Pink in his ‘Soveriengty of God’ Talks abotu how God deoes NOT ‘love the whoel world’ and how the john 3:16 is talking about ‘For God so loved HIS OWN (whcih is what the orignal word means I guess) that He gave His only begotten Son’

Whiel I agree with most of what Pink (A predestinationist/calvanist) says, I think that God does NOT choose who will be unsaved, and that even though He knows they will never be saved, nonetheless He still, in His benevolent Love, gives them every opportunity to CHOOSE Him- He even, in His benevolent love, blesses them more than Christians (remember theo ld sayign that it always appears the wicked prosper) so that htey will NOT be able to say “But you never gave me any reason to beleive in You”- or “But You never blessed me liek You did your own” etc etcc etc (insert excuse for not acceptign Him here)

There woudl be no such thing as the concept of free will IF God simpyl chose who woudl and wouldn’t be His before the foundations of world were ever laid- Whiel I am a predestinarian, I also firmly beleive the bible makes it very clear man still has free will and is not bound by a predetermined plan- (Now, one coudl aqrgue that we are boudn by a predetermined outcome based on our own choices throughout our life- but that’s antoehr discussion)


176 posted on 04/07/2013 9:28:25 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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